Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 17 May 2012 21:27, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > I am not familiar with CNS restraints, but whatever the program restraints > are - if you do a omit map, or just set the occupancies of the metal and > its surroundings to 0.00 and do a few cycles of refinement, I believe any > model bias will disappe

Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I am not familiar with CNS restraints, but whatever the program restraints are - if you do a omit map, or just set the occupancies of the metal and its surroundings to 0.00 and do a few cycles of refinement, I believe any model bias will disappear and what you see will be pretty accurate descriptio

Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-14 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 08:48 -0400, Dave Roberts wrote: > However, I just want to make sure the metal environment is not due to > the fact that I did something wrong in my refinement script - thus > making it tetrahedral because it was refined as tetrahedral. ... > I don't use CCP4 for refinement,

Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-12 Thread David Roberts
Thanks for the replies. Yuri, yes, those were my exact concerns. This is a molecular replacement structure, but that was done with an apo structure, so I am certain the metal is there. My resolution is around 2.3 angstroms, which I think is OK for determining geometry. I have done omit maps

Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-12 Thread Yuri Pompeu
Hi Dave, I sounds to me like you are worried about 2 separate things here. A: Am I affecting the geometry of the coordination sites with a restraint file that is innacurate? B:Are my electron density maps biased, and what I am seeing is not really there? AFAIU, if you have a restraint file that

Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-12 Thread Roger Rowlett
It depends on what is in the restraints file(s). In refmac, I believe only the bond lengths are restrained, but only if you identify specific metal-lagand links. Otherwise, there are no bond length or angle restraints. Roger Rowlett On May 12, 2012 8:48 AM, "Dave Roberts" wrote: > Hello > > I ha

[ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-12 Thread Dave Roberts
Hello I have a protein structure I've been working on (seemingly forever), which includes a bound metal. In fact, I have the same structure with different metals bound (that's it's job, so it's not a surprise). My question is this - the metals I'm talking about now are Ni+2, Cd+2, and eithe