Re: [ccp4bb] protein ligand energy

2010-10-14 Thread John R Helliwell
Dear Colleagues, I see I should quote the last sentence of our abstract of Bradbrook et al 1998:- This work demonstrates the difficulty in relating structure to thermodynamics, but suggests that dynamic models are needed to provide a more complete picture of ligand - receptor interactions. Be

Re: [ccp4bb] protein ligand energy

2010-10-13 Thread Martyn Winn
This is all true. And I think the bottom line is that it is extremely non-trivial to get a meaningful number. The Amber MM-PBSA script is the best established one. We have an equivalent CHARMM-based script at: http://www.cse.scitech.ac.uk/cbg/software/charmm/ But I guess this is beyond the origin

Re: [ccp4bb] protein ligand energy

2010-10-13 Thread Robert Esnouf
Dear Rex, It certainly matters what you mean by the "energy" of a protein ligand complex. And whether you are comparing a series of related similar structures or looking for an "absolute" energy. The problem is that there is no such thing as an "absolute" energy, it is always relative to some

Re: [ccp4bb] protein ligand energy

2010-10-13 Thread Christina Bourne
Would APBS do what you want? http://www.poissonboltzmann.org/apbs/ It has interfaces with Pymol, VMD and others... From: Rex Palmer To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 6:43:49 AM Subject: [ccp4bb] protein ligand energy Can anyone

Re: [ccp4bb] protein ligand energy

2010-10-13 Thread John R Helliwell
Dear Rex, Not withstanding Fred's reply just to also mention that in our study:- G.M. Bradbrook, T. Gleichmann, S.J. Harrop, J. Habash, J. Raftery, A.J. Kalb (Gilboa), J. Yariv, I H Hillier and J.R. Helliwell “X–ray and molecular dynamics studies of concanavalin A glucoside and mannoside complexes:

Re: [ccp4bb] protein ligand energy

2010-10-13 Thread Vellieux Frederic
Rex Palmer wrote: Can anyone reccomend a free download program that will calculate the energy of a protein/ligand complex? The ligand has been modelled in. Thanks Rex Palmer Birkeck College Hi Rex, I think any refinement program such as CNS will do this - problem is, since these programs

[ccp4bb] protein ligand energy

2010-10-13 Thread Rex Palmer
Can anyone reccomend a free download program that will calculate the energy of a protein/ligand complex? The ligand has been modelled in. Thanks Rex Palmer Birkeck College