Re: [ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-20 Thread Daniel M. Himmel
Dear Asmita, (and all who may be interested) In Gourinath & Himmel et al. Structure 11:1621-1627 (2003), I normalized B-factors of several crystal structures for comparisons, using a simple applications of statistics. Any such analysis must be viewed with caution, of course, because it relies

Re: [ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-02 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi, also keep in mind that the total model structure factor used in refinement and anywhere where model-to-data agreement needs to be evaluated (such as maps or R factors) is: Fmodel = ktotal * (Fcalc_atoms + F_bulk_solvent + F_something_else) where ktotal ~ scale * exp(-h*Uoverall*h_transpose)

Re: [ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-02 Thread James Holton
Woops, sorry. There was a typo in my response. here it is again without the typo. B factors are 78.96x the value of the mean square variation in an atom's position. The square is the important part of how you scale them. Lets say you have static disorder in the crystal lattice, and that gi

Re: [ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-02 Thread James Holton
B factors are 78.96x the value of the mean square variation in an atom's position. The square is the important part of how you scale them. Lets say you have static disorder in the crystal lattice, and that gives every atom an rms variation of 0.5 A relative to their ideal lattice positions, t

Re: [ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-02 Thread Avinash Punekar
Hi Asmita, Try running your different crystal structures through PDB_REDO. That should normalize the B-factors to some meaningful values for comparison. Best wishes, Avinash

Re: [ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-02 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Wednesday, 02 August, 2017 21:58:07 Asmita Gupta wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the response! > > What I have are crystal structures of the same protein in multiple > conformations, solved by different groups. I wanted to calculate the > residue-wise B-factors for each of these structures and

Re: [ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-02 Thread Asmita Gupta
Hi, Thanks for the response! What I have are crystal structures of the same protein in multiple conformations, solved by different groups. I wanted to calculate the residue-wise B-factors for each of these structures and compare how the values are changing for corresponding residues in these

Re: [ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-02 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Wednesday, 02 August, 2017 12:09:35 Asmita wrote: > Hi, > > This might look as a very fundamental question. I have a dataset of crystal > structures better than 3.5Ang resolution. For a qualitative analysis, I > want to compare the residue-wise B-factors in these structures, but due to > differ

[ccp4bb] normalization of B-factor values from different crystal structures

2017-08-02 Thread Asmita
Hi, This might look as a very fundamental question. I have a dataset of crystal structures better than 3.5Ang resolution. For a qualitative analysis, I want to compare the residue-wise B-factors in these structures, but due to different procedures adopted in refinement and scaling, I understand th