Re: [ccp4bb] low res. SAD phasing

2011-06-16 Thread Fan, Hai-fu
Concerning "low resolution SAD phasing" I would like to add some information here: 1. OASIS (version 2000) helped solving the unknown structure 1u9s in phasing the 2.9A SAD data ( http://www.sciencemag.org/content/suppl/2004/09/30/306.5693.104.DC1/Krasilnikov.SOM.pdf ). 2. OASIS-2004 helped solvi

Re: [ccp4bb] low res. SAD phasing

2011-06-16 Thread George M. Sheldrick
Tommi, Since you ask, SHELX and other 'direct methods' run out of steam at about 1.2A and for many years very few unknown structures have been solved at lower resolution than 1.2A. Recntly this picture was changed by the introduction of ARCIMBOLDO, which has solved a number of structures ab init

Re: [ccp4bb] low res. SAD phasing

2011-06-15 Thread tommi kajander
Hi, Thanks for all the comments, i was more wondering what the state of the art might be here, we have done similar thing at 4 Å (with 3 Å data though) 10 years or so back with SnB. Maybe we need to get a heavier atom derivative indeed the break the phases, but i'll keep banging for now..

Re: [ccp4bb] low res. SAD phasing

2011-06-15 Thread Phoebe Rice
http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp Original message >Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:36:59 +0300 >From: CCP4 bulletin board (on behalf of tommi kajander >) >Subject: [ccp4bb] low res. SAD phasing >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > >Dear all, > >Does

Re: [ccp4bb] low res. SAD phasing

2011-06-15 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi Tommi, Give it a try? You give very little information, e.g. - the data quality, - possible radiation damage, - isomorphism with a native data set, and - what you have tried so far. If you have a native data set with an isomorphous unit cell, try SIRAS instead of SAD. Tim On Wed, Jun 15,

[ccp4bb] low res. SAD phasing

2011-06-15 Thread tommi kajander
Dear all, Does anyone have suggestions for 6 Å resolution phasing with large number (40-50) Se sites (SAD so far)?? Thanks a bunch, Tommi Tommi Kajander, Ph.D., Docent Macromolecular X-ray Crystallography Research Program in Structural Biology and Biophysics Institute of Biotechnology P.O. B