[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-08 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
the “Wilson B-factor” of the calculated intensities and compare this to the observed Wilson B-factor. My 2 cts, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Edward Berry Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2020 03:52 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-07 Thread Edward Berry
Apologies for my previous email appearing to put words in Dale's mouth- I'm using my school's webmail and it apparently doesn't indicate the quoted text. The following is what I added: I think it is not just that the distribution is asymmetric and limited to positive numbers- it is due to

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-07 Thread Edward Berry
>>> Dale Tronrud 04/07/20 12:37 PM >>> This topic has been discussing on the BB many times and a little searching should give you some long-winded answers (some written by me). The short version. If you refine a model with a common B factor for all atoms, or keep a very narrow distribu

Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-07 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Tuesday, 7 April 2020 05:16:58 PDT Nicholas Keep wrote: > I am at the point of depositing a low resolution (3.15 A) structure > refined with REFMAC. The average B factors were 31 before I added the > TLS contribution as required for deposition which raised them to 157- > this is flagged as a

Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-07 Thread Dale Tronrud
This topic has been discussing on the BB many times and a little searching should give you some long-winded answers (some written by me). The short version. If you refine a model with a common B factor for all atoms, or keep a very narrow distribution of B's, you will end up with an average

Re: [ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-07 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Hi - I think it has to be the high ones - TLS "B" values are only relative to the overall TLS set. what happens to the B values if you do refinement without TLS? Eleanor On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 13:17, Nicholas Keep wrote: > I am at the point of depositing a low resolution (3.15 A) structure > r

[ccp4bb] Average B factors with TLS

2020-04-07 Thread Nicholas Keep
I am at the point of depositing a low resolution (3.15 A) structure refined with REFMAC.  The average B factors were 31 before I added the TLS contribution as required for deposition which raised them to 157- this is flagged as a problem with the deposition, although this did not stop submssion

Re: [ccp4bb] average B-factors

2017-12-20 Thread Tristan Croll
This is quite straightforward in any package with a reasonable scripting interface. In ChimeraX, for example: -load your model -make your selection (https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/selection.html) -open the shell (Tools/General/Shell), and in it, type: from chimerax.core.atomic i

Re: [ccp4bb] average B-factors

2017-12-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Easy with GUI2 Import coordinates and select the part you want Under validation and analysis Choose analysis Bs etc and you will get your answer BAVERAGE will give you Bs for main chain & side chain for each monomer but there is no selection option - you would have to do that in some other way

[ccp4bb] average B-factors

2017-12-20 Thread Amir Khan
Dear all, Sorry for naive CCP4 question, is there a simple way to calculate average B-factors (side chain, backbone, all) for only part of a model, such as a domain, loop, etc… Thanks, Amir