Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-22 Thread Deena Oren
Ok, OK, I get it. OSX or linux, though one response came in positively for the Vista. I will go to the Geek Store in NYC and have them convince me. I have been a mac person in the past as well as linux, but my mac laptop had some many hardware problems in its last year I had to hit the screen t

[ccp4bb] running fedora on virual PC 2007 (was RE: [ccp4bb] Vista)

2008-02-22 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Gruene Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 13:17 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Vista What virtualisation software are you using? VMWare, virtualbox, xen? Not seeing anything means, you can't even see to prompt when the vi

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-21 Thread Warren DeLano
JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Vista Vista or XP, I shamelessly admit that I personally totally fail to see why - ideology left aside - I would ever buy a *laptop* which is not a Mac. Even for the fact that when a Mac is "asleep" you open the cover and it actually com

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-21 Thread Adam Ralph
ain > Kerr > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:45 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Vista > > Deena, > > A lot of this comes down to personal preference at the end of the > day..you just have to find what works for you. > > I primarily use MacO

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-21 Thread Tim Gruene
shoot the issue. Has anybody got a solution for this? Flip -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Kerr Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:45 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Vista Deena, A lot of this comes down to pers

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-21 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
n for this? Flip -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Kerr Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:45 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Vista Deena, A lot of this comes down to personal preference at the end of the day..you ju

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-21 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Ok, I downloaded and installed CCP4 from the website on Jan 24, left the defaults as they were. Flip -Original Message- From: Scott Pegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 22:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Vista My

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-21 Thread Iain Kerr
Deena, A lot of this comes down to personal preference at the end of the day..you just have to find what works for you. I primarily use MacOSX and Linux. I also have a Vista partition on my laptop to share Microsoft office files with others in the department that use Windows or Macs..no comm

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Vista or XP, I shamelessly admit that I personally totally fail to see why - ideology left aside - I would ever buy a *laptop* which is not a Mac. Even for the fact that when a Mac is "asleep" you open the cover and it actually comes up in 1 sec, exactly where it was last evening, its

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Changrui Lu
is an issue then you should go for linux, as many of us already suggusted. cheers, Ray - Original Message - From: deena To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: [ccp4bb] Vista Hi All, I am about to buy a laptop and find that the XP

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Edwin Pozharski
I am sure Vista is probably just as good (or bad, depending on your point of view) as XP. Most of this stuff should run just fine (I understand that Vista is probably loaded with features that will bring older computer to complete stop, but we are talking about brand new laptop here). But let

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Antony Oliver
Hear Hear. OS X wins for me, followed by various flavours of Linux, and then - only then - a windows box (not running Vista). -- Dr Antony W Oliver Cancer Research UK: DNA Repair Enzymes Group Section of Structural Biology The Institute of Cancer Research 237 Fulham Road LONDON SW3 6JB [EMAIL PR

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Juergen Bosch
Hi all, sorry I couldn't help it :-) flames on http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/getamac/apple-getamac-chooseavista_480x376.mov flames off Juergen James Stroud wrote: For those who risk becoming blinded and/or deafened by the vista bells and whistles: http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/p

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread James Stroud
For those who risk becoming blinded and/or deafened by the vista bells and whistles: http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/feature/1FE803ADF0486D06CC2573990069A75D "The bottom line: It's Vista's architecture and feature set -- Barth cited Volume Shadow Copy, Vista's snapshot service, as an ex

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Scott Pegan
: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Scott > Pegan > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 22:04 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Vista > > Deena, > > If you are going to run windows, have to use XP. I tried vista, and the > sof

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Strange, CCP4 and Coot run just fine on my Vista laptop... Have not tried all programs though. Flip -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Pegan Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 22:04 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Avinash Gill
I have been using CCP4MG, Chimera, O for Windows, Wincoot, and the entire CCP4 suite (including running Refmac and Phaser through the CCP4i interface) on my Windows Vista laptop for the past 9-10 months without any issues. It has worked very well for me, and I have found Vista to be much more stabl

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Scott Pegan
Deena, If you are going to run windows, have to use XP. I tried vista, and the software wouldn't work. Scott On Wed, February 20, 2008 2:44 pm, Paul Paukstelis wrote: > Or don't buy an OS at all. There are a number of vendors out there that > sell OEM notebooks without OSs. I picked up a Compal

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Paul Paukstelis
Or don't buy an OS at all. There are a number of vendors out there that sell OEM notebooks without OSs. I picked up a Compal IF90 with WSXGA+ (1680x1050) for a good price. --paul Yi Zhou wrote: I think we are all using Linux, so just choose the cheaper OS (you have to delete it anyway). Yi O

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread Yi Zhou
I think we are all using Linux, so just choose the cheaper OS (you have to delete it anyway). Yi On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 15:11 -0500, deena wrote: > Hi All, > I am about to buy a laptop and find that the XP is twice the price of > Vista. Does anyone have positive experience using Vista for > crysta

Re: [ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread James Stroud
My Understanding is that XP is twice the price for a reason--Vista has been considered a major downgrade. It seems that SP1 has not helped. Of course, there are other options out there besides windows boxes, so you might also want to investigate those (OS X, Linux). Some of crystallographer

[ccp4bb] Vista

2008-02-20 Thread deena
Hi All, I am about to buy a laptop and find that the XP is twice the price of Vista. Does anyone have positive experience using Vista for crystallographic packages: CCP4, Coot, O, X-plor? or must I still avoid it? Thanks, Deena Deena Abells Oren, PhD Manager, Structural Biology Resource