Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-10 Thread William G. Scott
I completely agree with Harry's observation about the glare screen "feature." I find it is quite literally an almost instant headache. There is an option with the macbook pro to pay a ransom to get a usable screen, so my wife did. On my macbook air, I found putting a dull dark grey background

[ccp4bb] UEFI Secure Boot ( was Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography)

2012-08-10 Thread Peter Keller
Dear all, This discussion about OS's seems like a good time to flag up the UEFI Secure Boot issue, for any of you who haven't heard about it. Quite what it means for Linux depends on whose commentary you read, but it is just possible that the carefree days of buying any x86-based system with stand

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Harry
Hi My two ha'porth. For a laptop, this is the clincher for me - if you want to use your laptop anywhere that has reasonable light levels (e.g. demonstrating to anyone in an exhibition hall), you may well find that the beautiful shiny mirror that Apple put on the front of their screens on

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread James Stroud
You should choose an OS that interfaces well with your phone. James On Aug 9, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Jacob Keller wrote: > Dear List, > > I guess this is somewhat of a perennial issue, but I am faced with choosing > an OS for a new computer, and am curious about benefits and drawbacks with > rega

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Roger Rowlett
For me, Windows would be my last choice for crystallographic software. Most of the popular packages are developed for *nix in the first place, so you know you will be able to run it. Not everything is compiled for Windows. Programs will run faster and with less hardware in *nix than in Windows, and

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Fred. Vellieux
Hi, To make it short: If you want a computer you wish to bring home so that you can do plenty of things (i.e. not crystallography-related in addition to crystallography): Windows because you can edit videos easily, or play games, or (I don't) because there is plenty of (free) software available.

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Bosch, Juergen
CP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>" mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography Can you explain to me what the difference in stereo is ? I like my Zalman's and the visual stereo effect is pretty impressive. I have no idea if active stereo would imp

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Colbert, Christopher
topher Colbert mailto:christopher.colb...@ndsu.edu>> Cc: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>" mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography Can you explain to me what the difference in stereo is ? I like my Zalman

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Bosch, Juergen
lto:j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu>> Reply-To: Jacob Keller mailto:j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu>> Date: Thursday, August 9, 2012 10:29 AM To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>" mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallograph

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Colbert, Christopher
-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu>> Reply-To: Jacob Keller mailto:j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu>> Date: Thursday, August 9, 2012 10:29 AM To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>" mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes a

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Luca Jovine
Yes, you can define 3 buttons on a MagicMouse with this free software: http://magicprefs.com/ or simply attach a mouse with 3 real buttons... -Luca Luca Jovine, Ph.D. Assistant Professor & EMBO Young Investigator Karolinsk

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Bosch, Juergen
you can use your favourite 24 button mice from windows on a Mac as long as it has USB. And I highly recommend Bill Scott's Crystallography on OS X website. Jürgen On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Jacob Keller wrote: Are there no closet windows-users on this list to respond? Shall we have a coming-

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 10:29:10AM -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: > Question--do macs have multiple-button mice? Last I checked they had only > one button, which seemed almost criminal. You're about 7 years behind the times on that one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Mighty_Mouse -b -- | Ben Ei

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Antony Oliver
Mountain Lion does not come with X11 preinstalled. However, as Nat states, you can very easily install Xquartz Thus far, all of the crystallography programs that were working under Snow Leopard and Lion are still working on my laptop with Mountain Lion. -Tony --- Dr Antony W Oliver Senior Resea

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Jacob Keller
Are there no closet windows-users on this list to respond? Shall we have a coming-out day? Question--do macs have multiple-button mice? Last I checked they had only one button, which seemed almost criminal. JPK On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Quentin Delettre wrote: > Le 09/08/2012 16:58, Nat

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Quentin Delettre wrote: > I have seen that in the last Mac Os, X11 have been removed... But can still > be used with some package installation. I guess it isn't distributed with the OS any more - but it is still available: http://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing/ -

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Quentin Delettre
Le 09/08/2012 16:58, Nat Echols a écrit : On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Jacob Keller wrote: one. Are there any really reasonable arguments for preferring Mac over windows (or linux) with regard to crystallography? What can Mac/Linux do that windows cannot (especially considering that there is

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Andreas Förster
Mac OSX because of Time Machine, Illustrator and crystallographic software in one happy box. XP on a Virtual Box for emergencies (SAXS, AUC and ITC programs). Though with Microsoft and Apple both pushing towards gestures, fingertip interaction and tablets, Linux will be the only option for la

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Bosch, Juergen
OS X is a triple OS OS X, Unix, and Windows (via VM Ware Fusion or Parallels, or if you which directly booting into Windows) @original poster, you might regret the step to Mac - noticing what you have missed all the time on the other platform :-) I don't think Windows has a Beachball, that's a n

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Jacob Keller wrote: > one. Are there any really reasonable arguments for preferring Mac over > windows (or linux) with regard to crystallography? What can Mac/Linux do > that windows cannot (especially considering that there is Cygwin)? What > wonderful features am

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Graeme Winter
Dear Jacob, I would anticipate more than one response to this. Here's one: it depends on the context. For a laptop machine I would consider a macbook pro a no-brainer (i.e. OS X), as you can get a lot of horsepower in a decent size box which works very well. For a box sat on a desk, I would probab

[ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear List, I guess this is somewhat of a perennial issue, but I am faced with choosing an OS for a new computer, and am curious about benefits and drawbacks with regard to crystallography. So far, I have been using windows, and have found no limitations whatsoever, but then again, maybe I don't kn