Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
Public If the large “blob” sits on a 2-fold crystallographic axis then its occupancy is ½. So one possible interpretation is: * A cation present on the 2-fold axis, occupancy 0.5 * Waters next to the cation position, also with occupancy 0.5, even if they are not on the 2-fold: the wate

Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread Mark J. van Raaij
oh, 1.45 Å is a very short distance for metal coordination. perchlorate has a Cl to O distance of that length https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perchlorate Mark J van Raaij Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC calle Darwin 3 E-28049 Madrid, Spain Section Editor

Re: [ccp4bb] External: Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread Michel Fodje
That looks like a magnessium hexahydrate. From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Pearce, N.M. (Nick) Sent: May 26, 2021 7:15 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: External: Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density Is it on a symmetry axis? If so it could be the superposition of two molecules (a

Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread Mark J. van Raaij
PS I’d model a metal and 4 waters and then measure the distances after refinement. And then look at M Harding's ActaD papers and try to work out which coordination configuration and distances work best. And, when you get the chance, run an emission spectrum at the beamline to help identify the p

Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread Mark J. van Raaij
the central blob looks too big for B or even for P or S. Perhaps Zn, Cd? (although you didn’t add it, it might have been in the protein buffer or dragged through the purification by the protein?) Mark J van Raaij Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC calle D

Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread Sandra Eltschkner
How about [B(OH) 4]− From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Dale Tronrud Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 3:21 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density Something to give context and scale would be helpful. Two views would also be

Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread Dale Tronrud
Something to give context and scale would be helpful. Two views would also be good. Dale Tronrud On 5/26/2021 6:08 AM, leo john wrote: Hi Group Can you please suggest what this unmodeled blob can be (see appended picture)? I have Malonate, Boric Acid and Peg in my condition, and crystals

Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread leo john
Hi All: Thank You very much for the response and yes it is at symmetry axis. Distance between the bigger blob and smaller ones is approx 1.45 Ang. I have tried fitting BO3, BO4, but no luck? Thanks John On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 2:14 PM Pearce, N.M. (Nick) wrote: > Is it on a symmetry axis? If s

Re: [ccp4bb] Unmodeled density

2021-05-26 Thread Pearce, N.M. (Nick)
Is it on a symmetry axis? If so it could be the superposition of two molecules (a molecule and a copy of itself). On 26 May 2021, at 15:08, leo john mailto:ljohn16012...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Group Can you please suggest what this unmodeled blob can be (see appended picture)? I have Malonate, B