Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands

2017-01-25 Thread Robbie Joosten
Croll<mailto:ti...@cam.ac.uk> Verzonden: woensdag 25 januari 2017 18:30 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands I've often wondered about PEG (and, I guess

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands

2017-01-25 Thread Tristan Croll
I've often wondered about PEG (and, I guess, other synthetic polymers): wouldn't it just be better to define the monomer, and then model a chain of however many monomers you need? T Tristan Croll Research Fellow Cambridge Institute for Medical Research University of Cambridge CB2 0XY

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands

2017-01-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
Uma's use of quotes around "di" suggests a related question about PDB convention. It was my (perhaps not very good) understanding that ligands should be identified by what is actually present in the crystal, and not by what can be modeled. For example endogenous ubiquinone is likely to be UQ50

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-25 Thread Uma Gabale
Dear all,Thank you very much for your replies. It is a PEG, a "di"ethylene glycol to be precise, in most chains. Best regards,Uma. --Uma Gabale, PhDResearch AssociateMolecular and Cellular Biochemistry Indiana University Bloomington #yiv6125321912 #yiv6125321912 -- _filtered #yiv6125321912 {fo

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Robbie Joosten
to:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob Some general remarks about PEG modelling and associated caveats: http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2016/12/00/rr5136/index.html Section 3.6.5. Best, BR From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Bernhard Rupp
:11 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob Just to add to this, in our group, we had a funny case where we found PEG around K: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DrnhrLgvwGSldLVl9pSEptakE https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DrnhrLgvwGZlNiYTFoaktPUHc

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Ana Luísa Moreira de Carvalho
Just to add to this, in our group, we had a funny case where we found PEG around K: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DrnhrLgvwGSldLVl9pSEptakE https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2DrnhrLgvwGZlNiYTFoaktPUHc Ana Luisa > On 24 Jan 2017, at 17:36, Artem Evdokimov wrote: > > PEG. It wraps aroun

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Vivoli, Mirella
ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob On 24/01/2017 17:19, Uma Gabale wrote: > While refining a structure at 2.5 A resolution, we observed a > semi-circular/crescent shaped > electron density blob as shown in the attached picture. We have been unable > to identify it > so far, an

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Artem Evdokimov
PEG. It wraps around K or R residues just like you are showing. Artem www.harkerbio.com "where every blob has candy inside" On Jan 24, 2017 12:19 PM, "Uma Gabale" < 0ebb5dcf3eaa-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > Dear all, > While refining a structure at 2.5 A resolution, we observed a >

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
Hi Uma, It is risky to guess based on one-view of of the density from 2-dimensional images. What is the contour-level of 2mFo-DFc (blue) map displayed here?!! If 2mFo-DFc density is continuous from Arg, say at 0.8 sigma, then could it be an alternate conformation of the Arg side-chain. One could b

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Paul Emsley
On 24/01/2017 17:32, Paul Emsley wrote: On 24/01/2017 17:19, Uma Gabale wrote: While refining a structure at 2.5 A resolution, we observed a semi-circular/crescent shaped electron density blob as shown in the attached picture. We have been unable to identify it so far, and would appreciate an

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Paul Emsley
On 24/01/2017 17:19, Uma Gabale wrote: While refining a structure at 2.5 A resolution, we observed a semi-circular/crescent shaped electron density blob as shown in the attached picture. We have been unable to identify it so far, and would appreciate any help in identification. If you have C

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob

2017-01-24 Thread Boaz Shaanan
    From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Uma Gabale [0ebb5dcf3eaa-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 7:19 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob Dear all, While refining a structure at 2.5 A