Re: [ccp4bb] Tough 'shell' on disturbed drop

2010-11-25 Thread Jürgen Bosch
Often you can also avoid this skin formation by adding a bit of your reservoir solution first to make it a larger droplet. Then the microtools as mentioned earlier or just two loops Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemis

Re: [ccp4bb] Tough 'shell' on disturbed drop

2010-11-25 Thread Ed Pozharski
gt; > Message du 25/11/10 15:56 > > De : "Rick" > > A : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > Copie à : > > Objet : [ccp4bb] Tough 'shell' on disturbed drop > > > > Dear CCP4 > > &g

Re: [ccp4bb] Tough 'shell' on disturbed drop

2010-11-25 Thread Frederic VELLIEUX
> De : "Rick" > A : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Copie à : > Objet : [ccp4bb] Tough 'shell' on disturbed drop > > Dear CCP4 > > I looped a v.thin rod emerging from a cluster of v.thin rods that grew in > 29%PEG1500 and 0.1M SPG buffer at pH7.5 (succinic acid,

Re: [ccp4bb] Tough 'shell' on disturbed drop

2010-11-25 Thread David Schuller
The shell may be denatured protein. Remove the protein from the experiment and the problem will likely go away. On 11/25/10 09:45, Rick wrote: Dear CCP4 I looped a v.thin rod emerging from a cluster of v.thin rods that grew in 29%PEG1500 and 0.1M SPG buffer at pH7.5 (succinic acid, sodium di

Re: [ccp4bb] Tough 'shell' on disturbed drop

2010-11-25 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Hi, You're working with a very 'rich' crystallization condition. It probably was supersaturated or close to super-saturated with respect to something, and that something crashed out on the surface (where liquid contacted air) forming a crust. Your loop (while perfectly clean) can also be the sourc

[ccp4bb] Tough 'shell' on disturbed drop

2010-11-25 Thread Rick
Dear CCP4 I looped a v.thin rod emerging from a cluster of v.thin rods that grew in 29%PEG1500 and 0.1M SPG buffer at pH7.5 (succinic acid, sodium dihydrogen orthophospate and glycine). The loop i used had been washed more than 10 times with deionised water (so assumed as 'clean'). The crystals