Re: [ccp4bb] Slightly off topic, ~H2O/residue vs resolution

2007-05-17 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Mark, Getting reliable stats straight from the PDB is nearly impossible. Waters are commonly used to fill the gaps in difference maps, just to lower the R-factor. Just look at the density for almost any structure. You'll see that there are quite a few waters that have no density at all, insanel

Re: [ccp4bb] Slightly off topic, ~H2O/residue vs resolution

2007-05-17 Thread Martyn Winn
The CCP4 program rwcontents includes the data from Carugo & Bordo, Acta Cryst D, 55, 479 (1999) Headline figures are 1.0 waters per protein residue at 2.0A, and 1.6-1.7 waters per protein residue at 1.0A. They use mainly room temperature, but also some cryo structures. And, as Clemens said, you s

Re: [ccp4bb] Slightly off topic, ~H2O/residue vs resolution

2007-05-17 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Hi Mark, I attach a little plot based on a quick analysis of recent PDB entries (between Jan 04 and Nov 06, only Xray). This shows the number of waters (HOH residues) per ATOM record (i.e. mainly protein, RNA/DNA). If you want the number of waters per amino-acid residue, you could just multiply it

[ccp4bb] Slightly off topic, ~H2O/residue vs resolution

2007-05-17 Thread mark michaels
Hello everyone, I would like to ask for any information on reasonable, preferably quantitatively derived values for the approximate crystallographic H2O to residue ratio versus resolution for protein structures ? Any references or studies would be ideal, but rules of thumb would also help. If th