Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Cheers, Robbie >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone ____ Van: Kay >> Diederichs Verzonden: 14-2-2014 8:21 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs >> >> Nat, >> >> that's why I set up the CCP4 wiki at >

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Tim Gruene
rs, Robbie > > Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Kay > Diederichs Verzonden: 14-2-2014 8:21 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs > > Nat, > > that's why I set up the CCP4 wiki at > http://strucbio.b

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Robbie Joosten
Verzonden: 14-2-2014 8:21 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs Nat, that's why I set up the CCP4 wiki at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Main_Page ! The idea is that everybody benefits: experienced crystallographers/biologists can concen

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Paul Emsley
On 14/02/14 09:15, George Sheldrick wrote: Perhaps someone should make a list of the questions most frequently asked on CCP4bb and the most helpful replies that they generated. This could even be made into a wiki. RIP minor-groove :-(

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Bert Van-Den-Berg
unity we can be proud of CCP4BB! Bert From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Gerard Bricogne [g...@globalphasing.com] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:47 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs Dear George,

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Kay Diederichs
allographer is a software developer ? >>>>> >>>>> I think like our beloved crystals "we" come in different flavors. And we >>>>> need to train the next generation of students with that perspective in >>>>> mind. >&

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear George, Ever since I read your message that gave rise to this thread I have had a few remarks in mind that other preoccupations have kept me from sharing, but perhaps there is still room for them among the numerous contributions to this topic that have been made since. What attract

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Frank von Delft
I couldn't help noticing the use of the passive voice in the last sentence... :) Which is the real problem: wikis are an SEP, a Somebody-Else's-Problem. Emails are not. (And this interesting meta-conversation would never have happened on a wiki.) On 14/02/2014 09:15, George Sheldrick wro

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread George Sheldrick
I think that more people read wikis than contribute to them, so this 'experiment' (see below) is a little biased. On the other hand, it is often easier to put a question to CCP4bb than to search for the answer in wikis and other documentation, however well organized they are. Kay: can you see

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-14 Thread Frank von Delft
rote: It's not an e-mail bulletin board, but Researchgate seems to be quite popular for wet lab questions. IMO the Q&A section of the social network is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone ______

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
gt; http://lupo.jhsph.edu >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Eleanor Dodson >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree with Frank - it keeps crystallographers modest to know how >>> challenging wet lab stuff still is.. >>> Eleanor >>> >

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Francis Reyes
Hi Tim Yes it is web-based. (Their iOS app works pretty well). Is it slow ? Well it depends. If you consider the situation where a ccp4bb poster has a specific question... "How do I determine the resolution of my data..." On the CCP4BB you get a number of posts of the following types in res

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Tim Gruene
>> Fax: +1-410-955-2926 >> http://lupo.jhsph.edu >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Eleanor Dodson >> wrote: >> >>> I agree with Frank - it keeps crystallographers modest to know how >>> challenging wet lab stuff still is.. >>> Eleanor >>> >>> On 12 Febru

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Francis Reyes
graphers modest to know how >> challenging wet lab stuff still is.. >> Eleanor >> >> On 12 February 2014 19:23, Robbie Joosten wrote: >>> It's not an e-mail bulletin board, but Researchgate seems to be quite >>> popular for wet lab questions. IMO the Q&

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
eb 13, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Eleanor Dodson >> wrote: >> >> I agree with Frank - it keeps crystallographers modest to know how >> challenging wet lab stuff still is.. >> Eleanor >> >> On 12 February 2014 19:23, Robbie Joosten >> wrote: >> >&g

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Bosch, Juergen
, but Researchgate seems to be quite popular for wet lab questions. IMO the Q&A section of the social network is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Sent from my Windows Phone Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 A

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Eugene Valkov
: +1-410-614-4894 >>> Fax: +1-410-955-2926 >>> http://lupo.jhsph.edu >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Eleanor Dodson >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree with Frank - it keeps crystallographers modest to know how >>> challenging wet lab stu

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Tim Gruene
: >>> +1-410-955-2926 http://lupo.jhsph.edu >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Eleanor Dodson >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree with Frank - it keeps crystallographers modest to know >>> how challenging wet lab stuff still is.. Eleanor >>> >>>

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Nat Echols
> On 12 February 2014 19:23, Robbie Joosten >> wrote: >> >> It's not an e-mail bulletin board, but Researchgate seems to be quite >> popular for wet lab questions. IMO the Q&A section of the social network >> is >> a bit messy. That said, the quality s

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Eugene Valkov
etwork is > a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. > > Cheers, > Robbie > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > Van: Paul Emsley > Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 > Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4b

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Pierre Rizkallah
___ Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallogra

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Bosch, Juergen
12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Cheers, >> > Robbie >> > >> > Sent from my Windows Phone >> > >> > Van: Paul Emsley >> > Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 >> > Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> > Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs >>

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Mike S
ality seems to improve gradually. > > > > Cheers, > > Robbie > > > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > ____ > > Van: Paul Emsley > > Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 > > Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > Onderwerp: Re: [ccp

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
section of the social network is > a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. > > Cheers, > Robbie > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > Van: Paul Emsley > Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 > Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Onder

[ccp4bb] השב: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Boaz Shaanan
:00) אל CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK נושא Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs It's not an e-mail bulletin board, but Researchgate seems to be quite popular for wet lab questions. IMO the Q&A section of the social network is a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. Cheers, Robbie Se

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Robbie Joosten
Van: Paul Emsley Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: > It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab > problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallogr

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Kolar, Carol
Nebraska Medical Center Omaha, NE 68198-7696 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Paul Emsley [pems...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:22 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Paul Emsley
On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic computing, The is clearly a big need for it, and those of us who try to keep out of wet-labs would not have to wade th

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Frank von Delft
Don't know... I'm quite happy to wade through the wet stuff, keeps me in touch with the stuff that people actually struggle with. On 12/02/2014 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or c

Re: [ccp4bb] השב: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Enrico Stura
wondering. Cheers, Boaz הודעה מקורית מאת George Sheldrick תאריך: 12/02/2014 18:03 (GMT+02:00) אל CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK נושא Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallograp

[ccp4bb] השב: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread Boaz Shaanan
make life even more complicated in terms of handling more bb's. Just wondering. Cheers, Boaz הודעה מקורית מאת George Sheldrick תאריך: 12/02/2014 18:03 (GMT+02:00) אל CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK נושא Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs It would be so nice to have a 'sister CC

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-12 Thread George Sheldrick
It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic computing, The is clearly a big need for it, and those of us who try to keep out of wet-labs would not have to wade though it all. George On 02/12/2014 03:05 P