Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-09 Thread Peter Keller
vintage' systems and one for current systems. Alternatively I could provide both statically and dynamically linked versions. What do users think? Best wishes, George On 08.10.19 11:04, Peter Keller wrote: HI Tim, On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Tim Gruene wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 23:04:28 +0200 Fro

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-09 Thread Kay Diederichs
t;>> older systems. I may have to offer (e.g. in CCP4 and on the SHELX >>> server) two sets of Linux binaries in the future, one for 'vintage' >>> systems and one for current systems. Alternatively I could provide both >>> statically and dynamically lin

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-09 Thread Peter Keller
rnatively I could provide both statically and dynamically linked versions. What do users think? Best wishes, George On 08.10.19 11:04, Peter Keller wrote: HI Tim, On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Tim Gruene wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 23:04:28 +0200 From: Tim Gruene To: Peter Keller Cc: CCP4BB@j

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-09 Thread Kay Diederichs
m, >> >> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Tim Gruene wrote: >> >>> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 23:04:28 +0200 >>> From: Tim Gruene >>> To: Peter Keller >>> Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk >>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10 >>> >&

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-08 Thread Peter Keller
oute, you will need to specify both -L and -rpath. What do users think? As for which is the best approach, I'll let others make their opinions known, but I hope that this explanation has helped. Regards, Peter. Best wishes, George On 08.10.19 11:04, Peter Keller wrote: HI Tim, On

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-08 Thread Tim Gruene
braries at run-time: its argument > doesn't even have to exist at link-time. If you go down this route, you > will need to specify both -L and -rpath. > > > What do users think? > > As for which is the best approach, I'll let others make their opinions > kn

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian

2019-10-08 Thread Peter Keller
Dear Isabel On 08/10/2019 14:53, Isabel Uson wrote: Dear Bernhard and Peter, as Tim describes, changing the grub loader fixes the problem. Unfortunately, this is not a viable solution. Many crystallographers do not have root access on their systems. Their system administration staff will ha

[ccp4bb] Shelx and debian

2019-10-08 Thread Isabel Uson
Dear Bernhard and Peter, as Tim describes, changing the grub loader fixes the problem. I have looked into the changes to eliminate system calls and provide a version that would work without changes to the system, they are relatively minor. SHELXE just needs to eliminate calls to system time, pity

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-08 Thread Peter Keller
hope that this explanation has helped. Regards, Peter. Best wishes, George On 08.10.19 11:04, Peter Keller wrote: HI Tim, On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Tim Gruene wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 23:04:28 +0200 From: Tim Gruene To: Peter Keller Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-08 Thread David Schuller
d provide both statically and dynamically linked versions. What do users think? Best wishes, George On 08.10.19 11:04, Peter Keller wrote: HI Tim, On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Tim Gruene wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 23:04:28 +0200 From: Tim Gruene To: Peter Keller Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Re

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-08 Thread George Sheldrick
il.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10 @Peter: are you sure that without 'vsyscall=emulate' linux binaries need to be dynamically linked? I would be very surprised if the linux kernel would disable statically linked binaries. I rather think that the vanilla versions

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-08 Thread Peter Keller
HI Tim, On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Tim Gruene wrote: Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 23:04:28 +0200 From: Tim Gruene To: Peter Keller Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10 @Peter: are you sure that without 'vsyscall=emulate' linux binaries need to be dynamically

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-07 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Bernhard, as Peter mentioned, you need to reboot the system with the kernel parameter vsyscall=emulate. On Debian, you edit the file /etc/default/grub and modify the value of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet vsyscall=emulate" (default here is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet") Once s

Re: [ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-07 Thread Peter Keller
Dear Bernhard, We had this issue drawn to our attention last year by an early adopter of Debian 10 while it was still in testing. I thought that it was a bug, and submitted a report accordingly here: . I was told that it is not a bug,

[ccp4bb] Shelx and debian 10

2019-10-07 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Hi Fellows, we updated to Debian 10 on the local workshop computers, and reinstalled Coot and ccp4. All fine. Problem: Shelxc/d/e/ does not run, and the call exits immediately sans any message. This holds for the binaries included in ccp4 as well as for those from the SHELX site. T