Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-13 Thread Jacob Keller
all, no concrete evidence for such). Therefore, perhaps all designs by humans would also be mere illusions...ah! but they seem so much like the product of an intelligence! JPK - Original Message - From: "Ed Pozharski" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:29 PM Subject:

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-08 Thread Jürgen Bosch
A large amount of hypotheticals can be found in Plasmodium :-) Jürgen - Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Phone: +1-410-614-4742 Lab:

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
David is absolutely right. There is no design, Jacob, we just instinctively look for it everywhere because seeking purpose instead of understanding mechanism conveys advantage to our species. Your rationale is flawed - just because it is imaginable (with caveats) does not mean that it must exist

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-08 Thread Robert Immormino
rtain rare tRNAs (for Arg, Ile, Leu, and Pro in the cell line > mentioned), thereby increasing their availability and subsequent usage. > > Keep chasing that Nobel Prize, but have a backup plan...you're clearly very > creative. > > Mike > > > ----- Original Mess

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-08 Thread Michael Thompson
spite their commonness and high importance. - Original Message - From: "Artem Evdokimov" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase Regardless of whether a system like this exists in Nature or not - it's fun to imagine! O

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-08 Thread David Schuller
On 09/07/10 22:10, Jacob Keller wrote: In terms of "usefulness," I was actually thinking about cells learning how to make new proteins from other cells, Which they do already by exchanging genes or perhaps an immune system could use the info to make the right choice of starting materials. Th

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-07 Thread aaleshin
I shell correct myself. The Darwin evolution of species is not sufficient to perform all functions of the reverse translatase. The Nature also uses viruses in order to "translate" proteins from different species. The other forms of reverse translation were probably not needed before the in

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-07 Thread aaleshin
Doesn't natural selection act like a Reverse Translatase? Which is quite an elegant implementation of the idea... On Sep 7, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Artem Evdokimov wrote: Regardless of whether a system like this exists in Nature or not - it's fun to imagine! On a microscopic scale one could propos

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-07 Thread Jacob Keller
- Original Message - From: "Artem Evdokimov" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase Regardless of whether a system like this exists in Nature or not - it's fun to imagine! On a microscopic scale one could propose a hypo

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-07 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Regardless of whether a system like this exists in Nature or not - it's fun to imagine! On a microscopic scale one could propose a hypothetical mechanism by which a completely unfolded polypeptide chain could be fed into a gated (or state-locked) peptidase that may break the chain down in a co-ord

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-07 Thread David Schuller
On 09/06/10 21:36, Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, does anyone know of any conceptual reason why a reverse translatase enzyme (protein-->nucleic acid) could not exist? I can think of so many things for which such an enzyme would be helpful, both to cells and to scientists...! Unless

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-07 Thread Greg Alushin
48895 From: CCP4 bulletin board [ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Greg Alushin [galus...@berkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:19 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase Hi Jacob- What an intriguing proposition.

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-07 Thread Murray, James W
erkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:19 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase Hi Jacob- What an intriguing proposition. I can think of multiple reasons why such a system would not exist, but there is a mechanistic one which is most fundamental, havi

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-06 Thread Greg Alushin
ideas coming, Mike Thompson - Original Message - From: "Jacob Keller" To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 6:36:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase Dear Crystallographers, does anyone know of any conceptual re

Re: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-06 Thread Michael Thompson
al Message - From: "Jacob Keller" To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 6:36:14 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase Dear Crystallographers, does anyone know of any conceptual reason why a reverse translatase enzyme (protein-->

[ccp4bb] Reverse Translatase

2010-09-06 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, does anyone know of any conceptual reason why a reverse translatase enzyme (protein-->nucleic acid) could not exist? I can think of so many things for which such an enzyme would be helpful, both to cells and to scientists...! Unless there is something I am missing, it w