Re: [ccp4bb] Removal of cold gas layer for cryocooling

2007-02-05 Thread James Holton
To add to your survey: Yes I have tried it. Yes it does work "better" for glassifying cryobuffers. I saw Rob Thorne give a talk on this some time ago and immediately went home to give it a try. I used a cryobuffer (25% (v/v) glycerol; 0.6N NaOH; 25 mM SeMet) I had been having hit-or-miss ice

Re: [ccp4bb] Removal of cold gas layer for cryocooling

2007-02-01 Thread Patrick Loll
It seems to me that this ingenious setup should minimize the thickness of the cold gas layer, but NOT eliminate it. Effectively, it should keep the vessel filled up to (or close to) the brim; but Warkentin et al. show that even when the vessel is filled to the brim, a significant cold gas

Re: [ccp4bb] Removal of cold gas layer for cryocooling

2007-02-01 Thread Kris Tesh
9009 New Trails Drive The Woodlands, TX 77381 USA 001 281 362 2300 x 144 -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Stroud Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:06 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Removal of cold gas layer for

Re: [ccp4bb] Removal of cold gas layer for cryocooling

2007-02-01 Thread Kolstoe S.E.
2007 11:06 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Removal of cold gas layer for cryocooling I propose a simple contraption to minimize the vapor layer in cryocrystallography, using freezing in the liquid phase. This idea is based on the findings in the citation below. It is mod

Re: [ccp4bb] Removal of cold gas layer for cryocooling

2007-02-01 Thread James Stroud
I propose a simple contraption to minimize the vapor layer in cryocrystallography, using freezing in the liquid phase. This idea is based on the findings in the citation below. It is modified from designs used in the pet feeding industry. The novel aspect is that liquid nitrogen is used rat

[ccp4bb] Removal of cold gas layer for cryocooling

2007-02-01 Thread Florian Brückner
Dear everyone, has anyone tried removing the cold gas layer above liquid nitrogen (or propane) by blowing or sucking to improve cooling rates in the cryocooling of crystals. I would like to try and I would be happy if someone could share some experience. Florian. P.S.: there is an interesti