Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation

2012-03-25 Thread Boaz Shaanan
2012 9:55 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation You don't say how many molecules you are looking for? I would try to first work in SG C2 pretending that the pseudo translation is 100% of the origin. Reindex the data as k,l,h, change the SG

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation

2012-03-25 Thread Boaz Shaanan
-1710 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Eleanor Dodson [eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:55 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation You don't say how many molecules you are looking for? I would tr

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation

2012-03-25 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You don't say how many molecules you are looking for? I would try to first work in SG C2 pretending that the pseudo translation is 100% of the origin. Reindex the data as k,l,h, change the SG to C2 and then redo the scaling and merging. You will lose all the reflections k+l =2n+1 in your inde

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation

2012-03-23 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Subject: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation Dear CCP4bb members I have a 3.0 Å dataset which has an off-origin peak of height 36% in ‎patterson map. The peak is at fractional co-ordinates 0, 0.5, 0.5. Data has been indexed in P2(1)22(1) SG using HKL2000. I have located all the molecules

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation

2012-03-23 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Shiva I would be careful with omit maps in the presence of pseudotranslation. You have to omit bits of molecule from PST related molecules simultaneously, otherwise you will have bias. If you look at the equation it becomes clear why. R factors 50/53 is close to random (in the presence of

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation

2012-03-23 Thread Esko Oksanen
Dear Shiva, Refining against weak and strong reflections separately only works if your intensity distribution is bimodal, because the problem arises from the assumptions of the scaling protocol (that typically assumes a unimodal distribution) that leads to underestimating the sigmas of the

[ccp4bb] Refinement with pseudo-translation

2012-03-22 Thread Shiva Kumar
Dear CCP4bb members I have a 3.0 Å dataset which has an off-origin peak of height 36% in ‎patterson map. The peak is at fractional co-ordinates 0, 0.5, 0.5. Data has been indexed in P2(1)22(1) SG using HKL2000. I have located all the molecules in asu (as far as I know) using Molrep with the 'l