Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames

2013-06-25 Thread Loes Kroon-Batenburg
9 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames Dear Boaz, Indeed, small molecule crystallographers are routinely converting pixels into I's and can refine structures to very low R-values, but only to a limited resolution. The Bragg intensities are very strong, and b

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames

2013-06-25 Thread Boaz Shaanan
972-8-646-1710 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Loes Kroon-Batenburg [l.m.j.kroon-batenb...@uu.nl] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:09 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames Dear Boaz, Indeed, small molecule crystallographer

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames

2013-06-25 Thread Loes Kroon-Batenburg
CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Tim Gruene [t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:59 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear John, actually I am not a frien

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames

2013-06-24 Thread Jrh
Dear Tim, With a full interpretation of the diffuse scattering as well how about papers becoming entitled:- The structure and dynamics of enzyme X As you intimate some diffuse scattering is crystal dependent ie phonons derived. Other aspects are however not correlated over multiple unit cells but

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames

2013-06-24 Thread Mark J van Raaij
Hi Tim, I don't follow your point...frames are just data, and with more information than after integration. The data after integration is also to some extent dependent on the beamline. It should indeed give a more accurate description of the crystal contents - whether that in turn will translate

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames

2013-06-24 Thread Boaz Shaanan
72-8-646-1710 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Tim Gruene [t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:59 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE---

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement against frames

2013-06-24 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear John, actually I am not a friend of this idea. Processing software make an excellent job of removing the instrumental part from our data. If we start to integrate against frames, the next structural title might be something like "Crystal structur