Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement

2017-07-10 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
9781555819217 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Vipul Panchal [panchal.vi...@igib.in] Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 12:31 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement I do agree with Eleano

Re: [ccp4bb] Antw: Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement

2017-07-02 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Of course - none of us has given the best advice of all! Try to find a better ordered crystal! Eleanor On 2 July 2017 at 19:59, Matthias Barone wrote: > Beside the good propositions of fixing the environment, flip the peptide, > or using PDB_REDO, I would suggest the following additional attem

[ccp4bb] Antw: Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement

2017-07-02 Thread Matthias Barone
Beside the good propositions of fixing the environment, flip the peptide, or using PDB_REDO, I would suggest the following additional attempts: Try 1) setting the OCC of the sidechain (CG and further) below 0.3 or mutate directly to Ala. See which ones remain visible in a diff map and bring them

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement

2017-07-02 Thread Vipul Panchal
I do agree with Eleanor. When I was solving structure at 2.16A resolution, outlier residues were having stearic clash or required side chain flipping. At 2.76A resolution, hydrogen bonds would be difficult to visulize. I found phenix.refine more user friendly. You may too find it useful. Vipul P

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement

2017-07-02 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Just remember - most Ramachandran outliers are due to errors in the environment - eg: maybe some side chains clash hence refinement tries to move things to accommodate that bad feature, etc etc etc... At that resolution it is inevitable you will have some level of mis-interpretation .. 4% outliers

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement

2017-07-02 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Dear Meytal, PHENIX-REFINE has an option for Ramachandran outlier refine. If you check this on, it will do the work. But after this refinement, you must check every residues to make sure residues are in the density. Thank you Rajesh ---x With regards Rajesh K. Harijan, Ph.D. Schramm La

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement

2017-07-02 Thread Robbie Joosten
Van: Meytal Galilee<mailto:meytal.gali...@gmail.com> Verzonden: zondag 2 juli 2017 13:26 Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement Dear all, I am refining a 2.76A structure using refmac5. I

[ccp4bb] Ramachandran oultliers increase upon restrained refinement

2017-07-02 Thread Meytal Galilee
Dear all, I am refining a 2.76A structure using refmac5. I keep fixing the Ramachandran outliers down to 18 (1.9%), however, upon restrained refinement, the outliers increase back to 35. Do you have any suggestions how can I fix my structure? Thanks, Meytal Galilee