Re: [ccp4bb] Question about the statistical analysis-might be a bit off topic

2011-06-07 Thread Ian Tickle
Kay, the usual propagation-of-uncertainty formulae are based on a first-order approximation of the Taylor series expansion, i.e. assuming that 2nd and higher order terms in the series are can be neglected. This is clearly not the case if B is small relative to its uncertainty: you would need to in

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about the statistical analysis-might be a bit off topic

2011-06-07 Thread Kay Diederichs
what I'm missing in those formulas, and in the Wikipedia, is a discussion of the prerequisites - it seems to me that, roughly speaking, if the standard deviation of B is as large or larger than the absolute value of the mean of B, then we might divide by 0 when calculating A/B . This should inf

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about the statistical analysis-might be a bit off topic

2011-06-06 Thread James Holton
Just so that an actual answer appears in the archives of the CCP4BB: If you define C = A/B and also define sig(X) as the standard deviations of "X", where X can be A,B or C, then you can get sig(C) from: (sig(C)/C)^2 = (sig(A)/A)^2 + (sig(B)/B)^2 Note the subtle difference from the rule for pro

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about the statistical analysis-might be a bit off topic

2011-06-05 Thread James Stroud
The short answer can be found in item 2 in this link: http://science.widener.edu/svb/stats/error.html The long answer is "I highly recommend Error Analysis by John Taylor:" http://science.widener.edu/svb/stats/error.html If you can find the first edition (which can fit in your pocket) then

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about the statistical analysis-might be a bit off topic

2011-06-04 Thread Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propagation_of_uncertainty From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of capricy gao Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 10:45 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Question about the statistical analysis-might be a bit off topic

[ccp4bb] Question about the statistical analysis-might be a bit off topic

2011-06-04 Thread capricy gao
If means and standard deviations of A and B are known, how to estimate the variance of A/B? Thanks.