Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling protein-protein interaction

2008-09-02 Thread Jeremy Tame
Several people have already pointed out that a "pull-down" is not a rigorous, quantitative method. Mackay et al (TIBS 32, 530-531, 2007) have some interesting comments to the effect that many reported interactions found by pull-down or immunoprecipitation are simply artefacts. Pull-downs are also

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling protein-protein interaction

2008-09-02 Thread Young-Tae Lee
Hi Brett, As Filip pointed out, pulldown assay is not an equilibrium experiment. In addition, one of protein should be attached to the resin in the pulldown assay, which might not be sometimes favorable. You might not want to make very quantitative analysis on the pulldown results. If I

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling protein-protein interaction

2008-09-02 Thread Brett Collins
Dear Artem, Sorry I didn't want to scare people with too may details. The pulldowns and ITC were done with the same protein samples expressed in bacteria and purified by the usual ways. For both mutant and wildtype the stoichiometry from ITC was approximately 1:1 (from about 0.85 to about

Re: [ccp4bb] Puzzling protein-protein interaction

2008-09-02 Thread Filip Van Petegem
Dear Brett, since your deltaH contribution gets weaker, and the deltaS contribution changes from negative to neutral, you could have a case of enthalpy-entropy compensation (see e.g.Dunitz JD (1995) Win some, lose some: enthalpy-entropy compensation in weak intermolecular interactions. *Chem Biol*

[ccp4bb] Puzzling protein-protein interaction

2008-09-02 Thread Brett Collins
Dear CCP4 Community, My apologies for the non-crystallography biochemical question but it occurred to me that there are many people on this list who are also very good biochemists. We have just performed an ITC experiment with two proteins and measured a Kd of 150 nM, deltaH of -15 kCal/mol,