Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-11-17 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
the 5AX entries should be arranged.   Yours (not holding his breath), Martyn       From: Rachel Kramer Green To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013, 16:49 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs Dear Martyn, wwPDB staff regularly reviews

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-21 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
ing and redepositing their PDB entry. The test for obsoleting would then be the same as for a paper - that the change invalidates a fundamental interpretation of the data.  All the best   Martyn  From: Pavel Afonine To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Sunday, 20

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-20 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hello, just for the sake of completeness: this paper lists a bunch of known pathologies (I would not be surprised if they've been remediated by now): http://www.phenix-online.org/papers/he5476_reprint.pdf Pavel On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Lucas wrote: > Dear all, > > I've been lecturing

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-18 Thread Bernhard Rupp
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs Hi Lucas, this book (http://www.amazon.com/Structural-Bioinformatics-Methods-Biochemical-Analysi s/dp/0471201995/ref=sr_1_2?s=books <http://www.amazon.com/Structural-Bioinformatics-Methods-Biochemical-Analysi s/dp/0471201995/ref=sr_1_

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Alessandro Nascimento
Hi Lucas, this book ( http://www.amazon.com/Structural-Bioinformatics-Methods-Biochemical-Analysis/dp/0471201995/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1382044405&sr=1-2&keywords=structural+bioinformatics) brings nice examples of protein structures with "unusual features" in the structure validation chapt

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Roger Rowlett
Yikes! This cuts close to my area. We occasionally have undergrads solve and refine carbonic anhydrase-sulfonamide structures as a part of a 4-hour biochemistry teaching lab. (We have a whole shelf-full of sulfonamides that make excellent teaching projects.)

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Tanner, John J.
I use 2QNS for teaching. It is an egregious case of modeling ligand into noise. Also, the structure has many close contacts (e.g. HOH A351), poor stereochemistry (e.g. A58-A61), and incorrectly built water. Turn on symmetry to see the steric clash of the peptide ligand with itself. You can g

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Dale Tronrud
I would start with 1E4M (residue 361 of chain M) and 1QW9 (170 of chain B). First show the model and then reveal the electron density. This promotes a healthy skepticism of PDB models and enforces the importance of always looking at a model in the context of the map. For model building I wo

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Thursday, 17 October, 2013 10:51:08 Lucas wrote: > Dear all, > > I've been lecturing in a structural bioinformatics course where graduate > students (always consisting of people without crystallography background to > that point) are expected to understand the basics on how x-ray structures > a

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Phil Jeffrey
From the original ABC transporter retraction: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/314/5807/1875.2.full "The Protein Data Bank (PDB) files 1JSQ, 1PF4, and 1Z2R for MsbA and 1S7B and 2F2M for EmrE have been moved to the archive of obsolete PDB entries" You can get your hands on them via URLs like

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Lucas wrote: > I wonder if there's a list of problematic structures somewhere that I > could use for that practice? Apart from a few ones I'm aware of because of > (bad) publicity, what I usually do is an advanced search on PDB for entries > with poor resolution a

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Sorry, it is acta cryst F69, not 96! Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Schreuder, Herman R&D/DE Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2013 16:11 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs Dear Lucas, I recently came acc

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Herman . Schreuder
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Lucas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Oktober 2013 15:51 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs Dear all, I've been lecturing in a structural bioinformatics course where graduate students (always consisting of people without crystallography background to

[ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Lucas
Dear all, I've been lecturing in a structural bioinformatics course where graduate students (always consisting of people without crystallography background to that point) are expected to understand the basics on how x-ray structures are obtained, so that they know what they are using in their bioi