Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography

2007-06-21 Thread Richard Engh
It seems not so long ago that people were interested not only in stereo graphics, but also in research into interactive gloves etc. for maximal virtual reality in manipulating protein structures, "feeling" forces, etc. To simulate depth by rendering solvent accessible surfaces with shadows and ref

Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography

2007-06-21 Thread Latchem, MJ (Mike)
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of david lawson (JIC) Sent: 21 June 2007 09:12 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography I haven't used stereo since the last millenium - I don't miss it. You don't really need it and it's not worth t

Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography

2007-06-21 Thread david lawson (JIC)
nt: 20 June 2007 20:27 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography I've found that many of my undergraduates like the stereo capability, although I personally rarely use it. So I guess it's worth the pain of getting the stereo ha

Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography

2007-06-21 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
P Hubbard wrote: ... Thanks for the e-mail. The current results of the survey would certainly put you in the minority! Stereo graphics are not dead after all. I have used systems with and without stereo graphics. I personally prefer them, and think they are great for helping newbies refine, an

Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread Roger Rowlett
bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Santarsiero, Bernard D. Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:24 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography I agree with Kevin. We have stereo on about half of our workstations, and no one h

Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
I agree with Kevin. We have stereo on about half of our workstations, and no one has used them in about three years. We typically use "O". Also, we have three large servers which are relatively fast. So the main purpose of a workstation is building, not computing here. That way you can easily work

Re: [ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread Leonard Thomas
Hello, Personally I don't really care if I have a stereo setup or not. I have not really used stereo to build in probably 3-4 years. The majority of the users of my facility on the other hand really want stereo. Usually in the initial and final stages of building and analysis. It is

[ccp4bb] Popularity of Stereo graphics in crystallography

2007-06-20 Thread P Hubbard
Hi, Thanks for the e-mail. The current results of the survey would certainly put you in the minority! Stereo graphics are not dead after all. I have used systems with and without stereo graphics. I personally prefer them, and think they are great for helping newbies refine, and for non-struc