Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-02-07 Thread Jesse
This might be obvious, but make sure you washed the crystals thoroughly before dissolving them for SDS-PAGE or mass spec -Jesse On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Katherine Sippel wrote: > Might I suggest consulting the CCP4 user community wiki on the topic: > > http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konst

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-27 Thread Joe Watts
1. Try room temperature mounts (as suggested by others) 2. Expose the hell out of the crystal (5 min) on home source or go synchrotron 3. Run your protein through another column (ion exchange) even if it looks pure 4. Try an additive screen 5. Try limited proteolysis or methylation 6. If none of

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Kevin Jin
Maybe, you can adjust the ion strength of your condition. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Kevin Jin wrote: > For crystallization: > > Your xtal may come out a little bit fast. If the condition contain > alcohol,  such as IPA, you may have to modify it. > > If you let people know the condition

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Kevin Jin
For crystallization: Your xtal may come out a little bit fast. If the condition contain alcohol, such as IPA, you may have to modify it. If you let people know the condition, it may be more helpful. Also, please check the purity of your protein. Kevin On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Theresa

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Theresa You should also try microseeding into *random screens *by making a seed stock with the crystals that you have, to use with both microbatch and vapor diffusion experiments. You will often pick up new and better conditions and you're more likely to get well-formed crystals right out of the

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Roger Rowlett
As other have/surely will suggest, by all means try RT collection to establish if your crystals really diffract OK, or if your cryo conditions are killing them. We have lots of experience in our lab getting "beamstop" diffraction with certain samples when subjecte

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread George Sheldrick
It depends a lot on which home source and which synchrotron, there are enormous differences. Goettingen is uniquely well placed because we can reach four synchrotrons in a few (3-7) hours by high speed train and in theory at least five more with a longer train journey, trains are very convenien

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Francis E Reyes
Ditto to Poul's advice. I've had many many many cases where crystals diffract poorly (or not at all) on home sources only to show excellent diffraction at a synchrotron. (Whether or not a home source is properly calibrated is probably the biggest issue, but that's for another discussion).

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Edward Snell
: eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu Telepathy: 42.2 GHz Heisenberg was probably here! From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Poul Nissen Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:50 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction But

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Poul Nissen
But first of all: try to add a synchrotron to the crystals Poul On 26/01/2012, at 16.48, Katherine Sippel wrote: > Might I suggest consulting the CCP4 user community wiki on the topic: > > http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Improving_crystal_quality > > Good luck, > >

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Katherine Sippel
Might I suggest consulting the CCP4 user community wiki on the topic: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Improving_crystal_quality Good luck, Katherine On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Theresa H. Hsu wrote: > Dear crystallographers > > I have a protein of 90 kDa formi

[ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Theresa H. Hsu
Dear crystallographers I have a protein of 90 kDa forming dimers. Crystals formed with microbatch and vapor diffusion method in 24 hours but no diffraction at home source. Dissolved crystals was confirmed to be the protein with mass spec. Any suggestions to improve diffraction would be welcome.