Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-23 Thread Keller, Jacob
>There does indeed appear to be a tendancy for the SHELXC values to become >slightly negative at the high resolution end, i.e. when a value of zero would >be expected for pure noise, so maybe it is something more fundamental?! I think it is something more fundamental, and I've just explored whet

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-22 Thread Keller, Jacob
Not to harp on this too much, but I was helping a colleague today on an unrelated structure, and his dataset also showed negative CCanom's in all bins. I am now suspecting that there might be an actual bug in Aimless. Anyone else also seeing this? Jacob

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-19 Thread Keller, Jacob
ct: RE: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom [Sorry, typography was off a bit in the last one] Here is the answer, I think, to why twinning leads to negative CCanom: In fact, in any case in which the anomalous signal changes as a function of exposure, CCanom can be negative. The usual case is radiation damage

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-17 Thread Seijo, Jose A. Cuesta
AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom Hi Jose, I don't think that Jacob's point was about XDS producing negative CC1/2-anom , since he was not using XDS. Concerning your observations: if there is zero anomalous signal then the CC1/2-anom is _not_ expected to

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-17 Thread Keller, Jacob
>No, it's just merohedral - the true and the apparent spacegroup belong to the >same pointgroup. Even if it were pseudo-merohedral it would be a superposition of reflections, with addition of their intensities. Well, if there are several apposed crystals as hypothesized before, where they are c

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-17 Thread Seijo, Jose A. Cuesta
July 17, 2015 8:00 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom Am 17. Juli 2015 00:00:11 MESZ, schrieb "Keller, Jacob" : >>Jacob's case is twinning in P3(2)12 making the data appear as P6(2)22, >so it is indeed a rotation by 180°. > >Yes, this al

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-16 Thread Keller, Jacob
[Sorry, typography was off a bit in the last one] Here is the answer, I think, to why twinning leads to negative CCanom: In fact, in any case in which the anomalous signal changes as a function of exposure, CCanom can be negative. The usual case is radiation damage: Consider, to start, four in

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-16 Thread Keller, Jacob
Here is the answer, I think, to why twinning leads to negative CCanom: In fact, in any case in which the anomalous signal changes as a function of exposure, CCanom can be negative. The usual case is radiation damage: Consider, to start, four independent measurements of one reflection, two I+ an

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative CCanom

2015-07-16 Thread Keller, Jacob
>Jacob's case is twinning in P3(2)12 making the data appear as P6(2)22, so it >is indeed a rotation by 180°. Yes, this all fits together nicely. If I understand correctly, this would make my crystals a blend of mero- and pseudo-mero-hedral, so involving I's and F's, no? JPK