Re: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules?

2014-11-18 Thread Youval Dar
Hi Tim, While we did not make this information available yet, there is a way to get "non-bonded clash score" that does take into account symmetry related clashes using the Phenix command: >>> phenix.pdb_interpretation .pdb nonbonded_clashscore=True Testing for clashes is done in a slightl

Re: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules?

2014-10-27 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Nadir and all, I would expect that the developers of Molprobity possess sufficient crystallographic knowledge to implement distance calculations in crystallographic space rather than Euclidean space, and it is more efficient to implement the handful lines of codes than to expect every user to

Re: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules?

2014-10-24 Thread Nadir T. Mrabet
MolProbity works on chains present in the pdb file. Therefore, I would predict that if the pdb file can be made to consist of several chains (built by symmetry operations) and bearing each a distinct chain name, then MolProbity would (artificially) work on symmetry-related molecules as well.

[ccp4bb] Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules?

2014-10-23 Thread F.Xavier Gomis-Rüth
This brings me a related issue with COOT: the spherical refinement does not consider symeqs either or does it? Xavier Original Message Subject:Re: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:53:53 +0200 From: Jose Manuel

Re: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules?

2014-10-23 Thread Robbie Joosten
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules? > > Hi everybody, > Molprobity does not take into account contacts/clashes from symmetry- > related molecules, or does it? > Thanks in advance, > Tim

Re: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules?

2014-10-23 Thread Jose Manuel Duarte
Molprobity does not look at contacts from symmetry partners, but only at the asymmetric unit ones. Unfortunately the clash scores in the PDB validation reports are based on Molprobity and thus they won't count clashes outside the AU. See for instance structures 4bmw or 1jkm. Both contain serio

Re: [ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules?

2014-10-23 Thread Oliver Smart
on 23/10/14 11:52 AM, Tim wrote: > Hi everybody, > Molprobity does not take into account contacts/clashes from > symmetry-related molecules, or does it? > Thanks in advance, > Tim > Tim, I am not sure. In my experience MolProbity reduce does not take crystal contacts into account (but reduce do

[ccp4bb] molprobity clashscore, symmetry-related molecules?

2014-10-23 Thread Tim
Hi everybody, Molprobity does not take into account contacts/clashes from symmetry-related molecules, or does it? Thanks in advance, Tim

Re: [ccp4bb] Molprobity Clashscore

2012-01-13 Thread Antony Oliver
Ok, I'm completed baffled... and have obviously started something unintentionally... NB: it was a joke! I was amused that Molprobity, after 'adding' hydrogens to my model, had 'improved' the clashscore of my model by an obviously unnecessary number of decimal places...! [0.0098 point

Re: [ccp4bb] Molprobity Clashscore

2012-01-12 Thread Tim Fenn
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Pavel Afonine wrote: > >>  Who needs hydrogens? > > > may be you need to read this (for example): > > http://www.phenix-online.org/papers/dz5209_reprint.pdf > While this reference is useful, it neglects the role of prior chemical forces (vdW and electrostatics, fo

Re: [ccp4bb] Molprobity Clashscore

2012-01-12 Thread Antony Oliver
o:antony.oli...@sussex.ac.uk>> Cc: mailto:CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Molprobity Clashscore Tony, Who needs hydrogens? may be you need to read this (for example): http://www.phenix-online.org/papers/dz5209_reprint.pdf ? Pavel

Re: [ccp4bb] Molprobity Clashscore

2012-01-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
Tony, Who needs hydrogens? > may be you need to read this (for example): http://www.phenix-online.org/papers/dz5209_reprint.pdf ? Pavel