Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-24 Thread Shya Biswas
Hi Francis, Once I had asked Pavel Afonine the same questions and these were his suggestions but most of these can be implemented in phenix... I guess there is no general/unified procedure to do this, and in most of cases the tools and outcomes vary case by case. Some general points: - Removing p

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-24 Thread Dale Tronrud
-----Original Message- > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of > Francis E Reyes > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:37 PM > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density > is weak. > > Seems

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-24 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 15:01 -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote: > On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 12:36 -0600, Francis E Reyes wrote: > > Seems to be a quiet day on the BB > > So you need an earthquake :) > > This is similar, imho, to the issue of disordered side chains: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/gfo

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-24 Thread Herman . Schreuder
buffer may interfere with proper ligand binding etc. Best, Herman -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Francis E Reyes Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:37 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
David Schuller wrote: On 08/23/11 15:01, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 12:36 -0600, Francis E Reyes wrote: Seems to be a quiet day on the BB So you need an earthquake :) Had one already, thanks. Apparently sent from the vicinity of U. Maryland and JHSPH, thanks.

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-23 Thread David Schuller
On 08/23/11 15:01, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 12:36 -0600, Francis E Reyes wrote: Seems to be a quiet day on the BB So you need an earthquake :) Had one already, thanks. -- === All Things Serve the Beam =

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-23 Thread Bosch, Juergen
(3a) You could give GraphENT a shot first and see if you can do magic on visualizing the remaining bits of density. You could also have multiple conformations, try refining with a low occupancy first and see what you get back. (3b) use AFitt Jürgen P.S. I would set the occupancy to zero for th

Re: [ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 12:36 -0600, Francis E Reyes wrote: > Seems to be a quiet day on the BB So you need an earthquake :) This is similar, imho, to the issue of disordered side chains: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/gform?key=0Ahe0ET6Vsx-kdHVNa3VodUtfbVQtZ2pnUFcxQkx6RHc&hl=en_US&gridId=0#c

[ccp4bb] Modeling ligands in binding pockets when the density is weak.

2011-08-23 Thread Francis E Reyes
Seems to be a quiet day on the BB, so I propose this question: Suppose you have a ligand in the binding pocket and some mediocre data (3 A or so), the 'core' of the ligand is well defined in 2Fo-Fc map using the model phases of your protein, however there are 'chains/tails' of the ligand whic