Re: [ccp4bb] Membrane Protein Optimisation

2013-05-10 Thread Ho Leung Ng
Hello Rhys, I suggest using an assay such as that described in Anal. Biochem. 336:117 to measure the amount detergent in your concentrated samples. I found this assay accurate and easy to use with DDM. It should work with b-OG too. Good luck, Ho Ho Leung Ng University of Hawaii at Manoa As

Re: [ccp4bb] Membrane Protein Optimisation

2013-05-10 Thread John Lee
e. > > > Rhys > > ____________ > From: Jim Fairman [fairman@gmail.com] > Sent: 09 May 2013 20:58 > To: RHYS GRINTER > Cc: ccp4bb > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Membrane Protein Optimisation > > With information you've provided I have mul

Re: [ccp4bb] Membrane Protein Optimisation

2013-05-09 Thread RHYS GRINTER
lded crystals seemed biased for the formation of the gels. Thanks again for the help, I feel I might have a long raod to optimisation ahead of me. Rhys From: Jim Fairman [fairman@gmail.com] Sent: 09 May 2013 20:58 To: RHYS GRINTER Cc: ccp4bb Sub

Re: [ccp4bb] Membrane Protein Optimisation

2013-05-09 Thread Jim Fairman
With information you've provided I have multiple suggestions for you, some of which you may have already tried: 1. OMPs can be fairly particular about which detergents they will crystallize in. Try exchanging the protein into a different detergent/detergent mixture and then set up new trays in

Re: [ccp4bb] Membrane Protein Optimisation

2013-05-09 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Rhys, I suspect that what you call a gel might be phase separation (correct me if this is wrong) like an oily phase enriched in protein and detergent. you may have too much detergent in your drop. may I ask what detergent you are using (low or high CMC) and at what concentration of detergent do

[ccp4bb] Membrane Protein Optimisation

2013-05-09 Thread RHYS GRINTER
Hi All, A quick question if you've ever worked on membrane proteins, I'm trying to optimize crystals for bacterial integral outer membrane protein I'm working on. I'm getting some fairly modest rod like crystals in a 0.1M Tris pH 7.5, 30% PEG 600, 0.03M MgCl2 condition. However I get lots and