Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-04 Thread Muhammad Umer Faroque Malik
the data. > >>> > >>> Have you refined anisotropic Bfactors ? > >>> Have you added hydrogens ? > >>> > >>> I would suggest non-CCP4 programs like Olex2 or SHELXLE as the > interface for the refinements - I use the latter and it's s

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-04 Thread Harry Powell - CCP4BB
e >>> for the refinements - I use the latter and it's somewhat Coot like with >>> useful features that are particular to small molecule. Also PLATON has >>> some things (like expand-to-P1 and Squeeze) that, respectively, might be >>> useful to explore space group

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-04 Thread Muhammad Umer Faroque Malik
nd it's somewhat Coot > like with useful features that are particular to small molecule. Also > PLATON has some things (like expand-to-P1 and Squeeze) that, respectively, > might be useful to explore space group issues and disordered solvent. > PLATON also has a means to ch

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-04 Thread Phil Jeffrey
vent. PLATON also has a means to check for some forms of twinning. Phil Jeffrey Princeton From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Jacob Summers <60a137e4bf3a-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 2:49 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Lowerin

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-04 Thread Harry Powell - CCP4BB
; <000060a137e4bf3a-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 2:49 PM > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure > > Greetings! > > I am currently trying to reduce the R factor of a cyclic small m

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-03 Thread Jon Cooper
: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Jacob Summers > <60a137e4bf3a-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> > Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 2:49 PM > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure > > Greetings! > > I am currently trying to

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-03 Thread Rangana Warshamanage
Hi Jacob, >>The systematic absences in the hkl file pointed to P212121 being the space group, which is what it was processed in. If the data were processed in this space group (Laue class), the analysis of the systematic absence won't tell anything else. Probably, it would be more useful to proces

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-03 Thread Jacob Summers
The systematic absences in the hkl file pointed to P212121 being the space group, which is what it was processed in. As for the peaks, the highest peaks are 3.92 at 2.72 A from an oxygen (Q1), 3.67 at 2.74 A from an oxygen (Q2), and 2.68 at 2.75 A from an oxygen (Q3). Q1 and Q3 seem to be about

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-03 Thread Philip D. Jeffrey
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Jacob Summers <60a137e4bf3a-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 2:49 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure Greetings! I am currently trying to reduce the R fac

Re: [ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-03 Thread Kristof Van Hecke
Dear Jacob, An R-value of 17% is indeed suspiciously high for a small molecule structure. Some thoughts: Are you sure the space group is correct? There might be twinning involved,. Have you checked the ’signs of twinning’ for small molecules? There might be disordered solvent molecules, which

[ccp4bb] Lowering R factor from small molecule structure

2021-06-03 Thread Jacob Summers
Greetings! I am currently trying to reduce the R factor of a cyclic small molecule peptoid in ShelXle. The max resolution of the molecule is 0.8 angstroms. The molecule itself fits the density very well, but there are a few unexplained densities around the molecule which do not seem to be anyth