Re: [ccp4bb] How to convince oneself (and others) of ligand presence

2017-03-03 Thread Mohamed Noor
Dear all First of all, thanks for the replies here and off-list. I reprocessed the data to 2 A, and modeled two copies of the ligand in each of the two protein NCS molecules, without using NCS restraints for refinement. I also calculated an SA omit map and a polder map. In the end, the ligand m

Re: [ccp4bb] How to convince oneself (and others) of ligand presence

2017-02-23 Thread Frank von Delft
PanDDA tries to arrive at an objective score metric for presence: http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/09/05/073411 But in the end, you still have to apply all the scientific rigour that Bernard mentions. On 23/02/2017 13:56, Mohamed Noor wrote: Dear all I think I have a ligand (substrate

Re: [ccp4bb] How to convince oneself (and others) of ligand presence

2017-02-23 Thread Bernhard Rupp
At the risk of being redundant, I can only restate what I and many others have posted before: No simple answer or single universal statistic for your justified question or concern exists. The crucial question to ask first is what hypothesis or claims is your (ligand) model at that specific locatio

Re: [ccp4bb] How to convince oneself (and others) of ligand presence

2017-02-23 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I certainly would do more refinement - if something is bound there will be other changes in solvent etc. then search the difference map for peaks/ find ligand etc, and see what it shows.. If your original model and this one are isomorphous you can also check the Fobs-lig -Fobs-nolig Phi-no

[ccp4bb] How to convince oneself (and others) of ligand presence

2017-02-23 Thread Mohamed Noor
Dear all I think I have a ligand (substrate) placed in the active site of my model correctly. The CC is 0.785, B factor of 60 A^2 which is roughly similar to the neighboring residues and there was no ligand in my search model*. The data extends to 2.2 A, although I think I can get something hig