Re: [ccp4bb] Fo simulators - summary

2013-09-09 Thread Jrh
I prepared this on Sunday, here it is now:- Well, I was 'shaken but not stirred' to see a program 'fake_Fobs'. However James' posting on the Rfactor gap in MX is a more respectable, Sunday morning, topic. I tried to find the previous threads on this via google and couldn't. So apologies to all

Re: [ccp4bb] Fo simulators - summary

2013-09-09 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi James, I guess it depends on what you put in your simulated Fobs. With phenix.fake_f_obs I can add lots of stuff including H, TLS, small random rigid-body shifts averaged over ensemble of MD simulated models, alternative conformations, libration motions of side chains around bonds, etc.. etc...

Re: [ccp4bb] Fo simulators - summary

2013-09-09 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Alastair, since you mentioned it... In our article "On the analysis of residual density distribution on an absolute scale": http://www.phenix-online.org/newsletter/CCN_2012_07.pdf one of the conclusions was that we could not reproduce pronounced features on the solvent/macromolecule border show

Re: [ccp4bb] Fo simulators - summary

2013-09-09 Thread Alastair Fyfe
thanks for the reference to the script and additional discussion. I've looked through the archives a bit but couldn't find an answer to a question that's been on my mind for a while so my apologies if this revisits well-trod ground. One of the potential sources of disagreement contributing to

Re: [ccp4bb] Fo simulators - summary

2013-09-07 Thread James Holton
I feel like I should point out that there is about a 20% difference between "Fcalc" and something I would call a "simulated Fobs". Fcalc is something that refinement programs compute many times every second as they apply 100 years worth of brilliant ideas to make your model (Fcalc) match your

[ccp4bb] Fo simulators - summary

2013-09-05 Thread Alastair Fyfe
Below are some links to tools for simulating Fobs data: phenix.fake_f_obs: http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_sources/mmtbx/command_line/fake_f_obs.py phenix.fmodel: http://cci.lbl.gov/cctbx_sources/mmtbx/command_line/fmodel.py sftools (calc keyword): http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/sftools.html diffraction