Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-17 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
Hi Rafael, If it has not been already suggested: try DMSO (20% to 40%). In my limited experience I found that often DMSO works well for crystallization conditions with high-salt or high buffer component (like >1M D,L,-Malic acid). HTH, -Partha On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Meitian Wang wrot

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-17 Thread Meitian Wang
good point! recently we managed to collect very good room temperature data with PILATUS detector at SLS. if your crystals are large enough, say 100 microns or so, you have chance. regards, meitian On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:42 PM, mjvanraaij wrote: why not stay with room temp? many structure

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Christian Biertuempfel
Hi Rafael, If you really want to diffract your crystals frozen, I have two more suggestions for cryo-procedures which can be tried: a) annealing e.g. Harp, J.; Timm, D. & Bunick, G. Macromolecular crystal annealing: overcoming increased mosaicity associated with cryocrystallography. Acta Crystallo

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Jacob Keller
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Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
With salt-based conditions sodium malonate is your friend: Acta Cryst D59: 2356 On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:20 +, Natalie Zhao wrote: > -Original Message- > From: owner-c...@dl.ac.uk [mailto:owner-c...@dl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rafael > Couñago > Sent: 14 December 2009 20:22 > To: c...@ccp

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Matthew BOWLER
You could try conditioning your crystals in a dehydration device (such as the FMS (proteros) or the HC1 (EMBL)). Even if you crystals don't improve from dehydration they can often be cryocooled without any cryoprotectant after the mother liquor has been removed. We offer the HC1b at the ESRF

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Jan Schoepe
Did you also try a cryo salt (e.g. Li+)? In the best case the xtals might even grow in there. GL Jan --- Natalie Zhao schrieb am Di, 15.12.2009: Von: Natalie Zhao Betreff: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Datum: Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2009, 13:20

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
You can also set your cryostream to something like 253K... or even lower with high salt. Better than RT and still no freezing. You need to use one of these new loop covers to prevent drying out. Flip mjvanraaij wrote: why not stay with room temp? many structures have been solved at RT... Ma

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread mjvanraaij
why not stay with room temp? many structures have been solved at RT... Mark J. van Raaij Dpto de Bioquimica, Facultad de Farmacia Universidad de Santiago 15782 Santiago de Compostela Spain http://web.usc.es/~vanraaij/ researcherID: B-3678-2009 On 15 Dec 2009, at 13:20, Natalie Zhao wrote:

[ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Natalie Zhao
-Original Message- From: owner-c...@dl.ac.uk [mailto:owner-c...@dl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rafael Couñago Sent: 14 December 2009 20:22 To: c...@ccp4.ac.uk Subject: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling Dear all, I got these beautiful looking crystals that grow in high salt (1.8M) and diffract under