[ccp4bb] EDSTATS

2021-08-10 Thread Guenter Fritz
Dear all, dear Ian, I am trying to run edstats from command line. I have read the previous threads here and I was using the edstats.pl perl script. However I fail. Here is what I type and what I get (same on a centos machine and my mac). $ edstats.pl -hklin paefs_018_dimple_refmac.mtz -pdbin

Re: [ccp4bb] edstats

2016-11-15 Thread Jon Agirre
Dear Peter, the ccp4i2 EDSTATS task works differently to its ccp4i interface. There are plenty of differences between ccp4i and ccp4i2 in terms of how interface logic is handled, and using (internally generated) map coefficients is one of them. Regrettably, due to a bug it used to be impossible to

[ccp4bb] edstats

2016-11-15 Thread Göttig Peter
On linux and windows there is a problem with EDSTATS in ccp4i2. I always get error messages like cfft failed aso. I tried to read input maps in ccp4 format and even mtz files with map coefficients, which is not in the original description, but apparently required in the ccp4i2 versions (?). The

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-12 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
not win matches.  From: George Devaniranjan To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 19:22 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment Thank you Gerard for your suggestion. I will look into the paper you suggested and MAPMAN too. I am "idealizing" f

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-11 Thread George Devaniranjan
Thank you Gerard for your suggestion. I will look into the paper you suggested and MAPMAN too. I am "idealizing" fragments of PDB and while this would not agree when compared with the well refined structure, my goal really is seeing if these "ideal" fragments can still be identifiable when I lo

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-11 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Wednesday, 11 June, 2014 20:01:45 Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: > > What you want is a test for how well each model agrees with its own map. It > > is fair to argue that the model that is more self-consistent (agrees better > > with its own map) is the better model. But you won't learn that by

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-11 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
What you want is a test for how well each model agrees with its own map. It is fair to argue that the model that is more self-consistent (agrees better with its own map) is the better model. But you won't learn that by comparing model A to map B. However, conversely, if your modified model fi

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-11 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi George Yes you do. It's important to understand that you are not comparing the MTZ file ("the data") with the PDB file ("the model"): that's not possible, at least not directly. So you can't simply change the PDB file, redo the comparison and hope to get sensible results. EDSTATS is _not_ "f

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-10 Thread George Devaniranjan
Thank you Ethan. Supposing I want to compare with the experimental map, a small fragment of the model (let's say residues 15-30 in a protein of 100 residues). Supposing I start with one model but now extract from that model residues 15-30 (let's call it model 1) , modify it and now want to check

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-10 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Tuesday, 10 June, 2014 19:13:57 George Devaniranjan wrote: > Thank you Ian. > To clarify, I actually want to compare the new PDB file to the old MTZ > file to see how well the residues fit. This is why I mentioned that I have > the old MTZ file I generated from SF's which I got from the PDB. >

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-10 Thread George Devaniranjan
Thank you Ian. To clarify, I actually want to compare the new PDB file to the old MTZ file to see how well the residues fit. This is why I mentioned that I have the old MTZ file I generated from SF's which I got from the PDB. I am not trying to improve the deposited structure, I am trying to get

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-10 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi, sorry small clarification. The "complete PDB file that you used to run the refinement job" (i.e. the input PDB file) will obviously only be suitable in the case that you did 0 cycles of refinement. If you did some refinement of the model then the co-ordinates will have changed, and then you n

Re: [ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-10 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi, I'm puzzled by what you are trying to do. You say you have the original MTZ/MAP files. What have the original files got to do with it? EDSTATS requires the MTZ/MAP file calculated for the supplied model. The documentation states: "... the PDB file and the maps should all be from the same ref

[ccp4bb] EDSTATS for an extracted fragment

2014-06-10 Thread George Devaniranjan
HI, I want to calculate real-space R factor/RSCC and such parameters using EDSTATS in CCP4 but only for a selected fragment that has been extracted and then modified (changed the Phi and Psi) from the native. I have the original MTZ and MAP. Is it even possible to calculate these values witho