[ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-05-01 Thread Marcus Winter
cus Winter (Oxford Diffraction) -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Torelli Sent: 24 April 2009 16:46 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant Hi Liew, There have already been some very good sugge

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-25 Thread Ho-Leung Ng
Your mother liquor is already very close to being a cryoprotectant. I think adding 5% ethylene glycol, glycerol, etc. is enough. Too much may damage your crystals. In addition, you can also try: 1. Grow new crystals in your current crystallization condition + 5% cryoprotectant. 2. Increase the PE

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-24 Thread Joe
Title: Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant First of all, you need to find out if crystals you grew have similar quality before you conclude poor diffraction is due to cryoprotectant solutions. As others have suggested, you can test crystals using capillary mounting method. Second, there are a lot

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-24 Thread Andy Torelli
Hi Liew, There have already been some very good suggestions. I agree with Tim Gruene that a great starting point is to test the diffraction properties of your crystal at room temperature. This can serve as a baseline for comparing/evaluating cryoprotecting agents and methods. You can als

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-24 Thread Liew Chong Wai
Hi all Thanks for your precious suggestions and ideas. The crystallization buffer condition is 0.1M BIS-TRIS pH 5.5, 0.2M MgCl.6H2O, 35% PEG3350 Now, my crystal seem ok in 20% ethylene glycol, but only after a couple minutes of dehydration at room temperature. For sure, i will try other cryopr

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-24 Thread Ed Pozharski
What is the crystallization condition? On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 11:46 +0800, Liew Chong Wai wrote: > Hi all, > > Good day > I used MPD as a cryoprotectant (20%, 30%) for my crystal. However, > there is no diffraction signal at all. Without the MPD cryo, i still > manage to get 5angstrom, but it ha

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-24 Thread Roger Rowlett
I usually try the following, in order: 1. Transfer crystals to mother liquor + 30% glycerol or ethylene glycol (sometimes lower depending on crystallization solution). This did not work for you. 2. Transfer crystals to mother liquor + 30% glucose (or try sequential soaks in M.L. + 15% and then

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-24 Thread Tim Gruene
Hallo, there is quite a large number of cryo-protectants other than MPD or glycerol. If I remember correctly, the Methods of Enzymology, (176) list some of the, and you might check the recipes of the Hampton cryo screen. As suggested by Li, you can try oils. You can use small sugars (fructose

[ccp4bb] 答复: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-23 Thread Li Sheng
200031, China Tel: +86-21-5492-1217 __ 发件人: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] 代表 Liew Chong Wai 发送时间: 2009年4月24日 11:47 收件人: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 主题: [ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant Hi all, Good day I used MPD as a cryoprotectant

[ccp4bb] Cryo-protectant

2009-04-23 Thread Liew Chong Wai
Hi all, Good day I used MPD as a cryoprotectant (20%, 30%) for my crystal. However, there is no diffraction signal at all. Without the MPD cryo, i still manage to get 5angstrom, but it has very strong ice-ring signal. I used glycerol (15%, 20%, 25% and 30%) before, but it cracked the crystal.