Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] on-topic: your opinions requested!

2020-04-07 Thread Rajiv gandhi.s
Any paper published should share the data publicly, it is the job of the journal editor to ask so. If they don't want to disclose to scientific community then, how one could trust the data published in that paper describes active site and key structural information. Contact the editor of the journ

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] on-topic: your opinions requested!

2020-04-07 Thread Frank von Delft
I meant:  complain to the editor for accepting a paper without released coordinates.  We as a community fought and won that battle >20 years ago - so we have the weight of history on our side. On 07/04/2020 17:05, Schreuder, Herman /DE wrote: Dear Frank, here I disagree. I think it is bad p

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] on-topic: your opinions requested!

2020-04-07 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Hi Artem, Indeed it seems, as you mentioned, that you have to go ahead and determine the structure, particularly if you've gone a few steps ahead already (pure protein, crystals, data?).  Good luck, Boaz Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Department of Life Sciences Ben Gurion University of the Negev Beer She

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] on-topic: your opinions requested!

2020-04-07 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Sadly, I agree: it is pretty clear that the authors did not want coordinates revealed. Therefore asking them for information is not likely to lead to getting anything. To be completely fair, it's likely not even the authors themselves, but their corporate policy that's responsible. In cases like t

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] on-topic: your opinions requested!

2020-04-07 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
Dear Frank, here I disagree. I think it is bad practice to complain to the editors or start naming and shaming before asking the authors first. Only if they do not want to cooperate, it would be time to bring the flame-throwers in position. However, I think the situation is more subtle and that