Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble

2019-11-10 Thread Ivan Shabalin
Dear All, I would like to add my 5 cents to partly answer Eugene's questions about the script, and to follow up on Eleonor's mentioning of Zbsyzek and the rules for placing macromolecular structures in the crystal lattice. For the last couple of years, we have been routinely using the ACHESYM

Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble

2019-11-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson
; > On 10 Nov 2019, at 16:55, R. D. Oeffner wrote: > > The program phenix.famos (or phenix.find_alt_orig_sym_mate) does exactly > that for a pair of pdb files. > > Robert > > *From:* Eugene Osipov > *Sent:* Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:49 AM > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.U

Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble

2019-11-10 Thread Martin Noble
019 11:49 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble By the way, may be someone has a script to move several isomorphous structures to the same origin and rename chains according to reference structure? пт, 8 нояб. 2019 г. в 14:02, Eleanor Dodson <176a9d5ebad7-d

Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble

2019-11-10 Thread R. D. Oeffner
The program phenix.famos (or phenix.find_alt_orig_sym_mate) does exactly that for a pair of pdb files. Robert From: Eugene Osipov Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 11:49 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble By the way, may be someone has a script to move several

Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble

2019-11-10 Thread Hinrichs, Winfried
There was a paper/comment in Acta Cryst  by Zbigniew Dauter "the asymmetric unit should be close to the origin". The uncomfortable source is most probably that the result of a molecular replacement is sometimes an asymmetric unit "elsewhere" , origin shifts etc. Nice weekend Winfr

Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble

2019-11-10 Thread Frank Von Delft
Eleanor, whom are you grumbling at? If it's at the depositors, here's a counter-grumble: How would a depositor even know * know that it's "wrong" * know what definition of "wrong" to work towards * know that someone somewhere will care about this particular "wrongness" * kno

Re: [ccp4bb] A grumble

2019-11-10 Thread Eugene Osipov
Dear Eleanor, >From PDB files I see that the structures were solved by molecular replacement using pdbid 1gci as a starting model. It is hard to say definitely without the linked paper but may be the depositors made the same error that I did some time ago: they solved both structures using molecul

[ccp4bb] A grumble

2019-11-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I have just downloaded two isomorphous coordinates from the pdb 5arb and 5arc deposited by the same team Tried to compare and they are on different origins. I know it doesnt affect the crystallography It is easily corrected BUT it seems bad practice to me Eleanor