Re: [ccp4bb] [Off-topic] Comparison of the same structure built by many people

2017-11-21 Thread Pavel Afonine
Perhaps this can be automated: https://www.phenix-online.org/papers/wd5073_reprint.pdf Software doesn't get tired or bored, and thus potentially can try more and produce more plausible interretations. Then one can hire a number of people of various expertise to choose "best" result according to t

Re: [ccp4bb] [Off-topic] Comparison of the same structure built by many people

2017-11-21 Thread Marcin Wojdyr
It sounds a bit like this paper from a year ago: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms12549 apart from the conclusion: here the point is that amateurs build higher quality models than crystallographers. On 20 November 2017 at 20:25, Shintaro Aibara wrote: > Dear All, > > Apologies for the slight

Re: [ccp4bb] [Off-topic] Comparison of the same structure built by many people

2017-11-21 Thread Shintaro Aibara
; From: Shintaro Aibara > Date: 20/11/2017 21:25 (GMT+01:00) > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: [ccp4bb] [Off-topic] Comparison of the same structure built by > many people > > Dear All, > > Apologies for the slightly off-topic, but I was wondering if anybody knew >

Re: [ccp4bb] [Off-topic] Comparison of the same structure built by many people

2017-11-20 Thread Mark J. van Raaij
This one?http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?SE0260 Mark J van RaaijCNB-CSICwwwuser.csic.es/~mjvanraaij Original message From: Shintaro Aibara Date: 20/11/2017 21:25 (GMT+01:00) To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] [Off-topic] Comparison of the same structure

[ccp4bb] [Off-topic] Comparison of the same structure built by many people

2017-11-20 Thread Shintaro Aibara
Dear All, Apologies for the slightly off-topic, but I was wondering if anybody knew of a paper/textbook where a protein model was built by multiple people (ranging from novice to experienced builders) and compared. I believe the conclusion was that while the overall trace was broadly correct, expe