Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran outliers

2019-03-08 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
In this sort of case, I find that often the Rama-bad residues appear unfixable because small distortions in many bond lengths and angles have made the side chain appear correctly fit even though the rotamer choice was wrong. My recipe for fixing that: * Mutate the offending residue to glyci

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Change dimer assembly in ASU

2019-03-08 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Ezequiel, Be careful, it also happens that the asymmetric contains two half-dimers, with the other half of the dimers being generated by crystallographic operators. In this case it is not possible to rearrange the monomers such that the asymmetric unit contains one biological dimer and for

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran outliers

2019-03-08 Thread Tristan Croll
Dear Tereza, First, a shameless plug for ISOLDE (https://isolde.cimr.cam.ac.uk). It’s built specifically for working with models around your resolution. Other than that, I’d suggest having a close look at the corresponding sites in your high-resolution reference models as a sanity check. Rememb

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran outliers

2019-03-08 Thread Nicolas FOOS
Dear Tereza, In certain cases it could be better to do a step back to be able to rebuild properly. Did you look carefully in the real-space the agreement between your model and the visible density. If you "over"refined your model in reciprocal space only you can loose some information. I

Re: [ccp4bb] Discrepancy between (initially indistinguishable) space groups in mtz and pdb

2019-03-08 Thread CCP4BB
Hi Just to make sure about this - you do NOT need to reprocess the data (i.e. You don't need to repeat the indexing) you only need to change the space group in the way that Eleanor has indicated. Harry -- Dr Harry Powell > On 7 Mar 2019, at 21:36, Eleanor Dodson > <176a9d5ebad7-dmarc-req

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran outliers

2019-03-08 Thread Tereza Skalova
Thank you for your comments. 1) manual correction in Coot does not work - the density is too weak 2) manual NCS is substantially better than automatic local NCS in this case 3) CPP4i2 might be good idea 4) PDB REDO is great, however no more help in this case 5) Prosmart - I use "prosmart -id -p1 t

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran outliers

2019-03-08 Thread Robert Nicholls
Dear Tereza, It is highly recommended that you do not attempt to directly optimise the Ramachandran plot during refinement. Doing so would not guarantee you a better model, and would mean that you could no longer use the Ramachandran plot for validation purposes. I suggest that you inspect eac

Re: [ccp4bb] Ramachandran outliers

2019-03-08 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Tereza, Rather than opting for a technological fix in a reciprocal space refinement program you should look at all the outliers in Coot and see if they are fixable. If they are severe outliers, you need to rebuild by peptide flipping and possibly by more invasive actions. If you have small o

[ccp4bb] Ramachandran outliers

2019-03-08 Thread Tereza Skalova
Dear all, I have structure at 3.3A resolution and I have ca. 35 Ramachandran outliers. Do you have any idea how to reduce the number? I refine in Refmac, using h-bond based Prosmart restraints based on PDB structures (identical molecules with high resolution) and I use NCS, medium between AB (prot

Re: [ccp4bb] change in unit cell volume

2019-03-08 Thread Elspeth Garman
Dear Murpholino Unfortunately no rule of thumb has been established, although I have only seen contraction once and have seen expansion for very many proteins. Seems to depend critically on the particular crystal (and probably its density of stacking imperfections/dislocations) and even crystals