Re: [ccp4bb] SO4 or PO4

2019-02-17 Thread Goldman, Adrian
The total number of electrons in the two systems is identical, so you are looking for that extra fraction located closer to S than to P due to the change in atomic number. I haven’t checked but I doubt if this is easy even in ccdb, and I would be stunned if it is possible in the pdb. There might

Re: [ccp4bb] SO4 or PO4

2019-02-17 Thread Keller, Jacob
Let me clarify. I was thinking not of the anomalous but of the regular 2FO-FC density, which should be easy enough to quantify and compare to the relative heights in thousands of high-resolution PO4’s and S04’s in the PDB. One could even get a pretty good estimate of the likelihood the unknown’s

Re: [ccp4bb] : [ccp4bb] SO4 or PO4

2019-02-17 Thread Jim Pflugrath
Besides the anomalous difference peak which might be similar in height to the anom diff peak from an intrinsic sulfur found in cysteine or methionine, also consider hydrogen bonding. In general, a sulfate will not be donating a hydrogen bond. A phosphate probably will. ##

Re: [ccp4bb] SO4 or PO4

2019-02-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I try to quantify the relative anom peak heights by checking those over MET or CYS S sites with similar B values v the disputed one.. The expected difference between P and S isnt very big, but it might give you a crystallographic clue. Eleanor On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 17:31, Keller, Jacob

Re: [ccp4bb] SO4 or PO4

2019-02-17 Thread Keller, Jacob
Shouldn’t it be possible to look at the ratio of peak heights of O’s versus S or P to figure out which is more likely? The must be thousands of examples in the pdb with which to determine the ratio, even if one restricts the analysis to “high resolution” structures. JPK +++

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4BB Digest - 15 Feb 2019 to 16 Feb 2019 (#2019-53)

2019-02-17 Thread Luecke, Hartmut
Hi! As suggested below sulfur/phosphorous anomalous difference Fourier density would be nice, but you might be able to figure out what's going without collecting more data. Have you investigated the direct interaction partners of your mystery oxyanion? Unless you are at extreme pH values, phos

Re: [ccp4bb] SO4 or PO4

2019-02-17 Thread Yu Qiu
Hi Shijun, I had a similar issue a while ago that a acetylated lysine binding site was occupied by acetate from buffer. In this case, I would suggest trying crystallize in a conditions without SO4, e.g. using NH4Cl instead, if it is reproducible. Best, Yu From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP

Re: [ccp4bb] SO4 or PO4

2019-02-17 Thread 张士军
Dear all Thanks for all your suggestions. PO4 is from my Ligand PI3P, but I cannot see the electron density of the PI3P tail, and the binding site is exactly there. While my crystal buffer salt is 50mM (NH4)2SO4, so I am afraid the SO4 occupied the PO4 position.BTW, I can see the other SO4 ele

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