Re: [ccp4bb] Rosetta vs Modeller

2009-12-15 Thread Akram Alian
Subhendu I wonder if you approached this issue by molecular replacement using the antigen-binding fragment (Fab) of any antibody (e.g. 1FVD). You can separate the Fab into the two domains; Variable and Constant, delete the loops from each, and use them as models in Molecular replacement. Please l

Re: [ccp4bb] When can I say the refinement is done?

2009-12-15 Thread Murray, James W
Can we have a moratorium on plugs for books please? James -- Dr. James W. Murray David Phillips Research Fellow Division on Molecular Biosciences Imperial College, LONDON Tel: +44 (0)20 759 48895 From: CCP4 bulletin board [ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behal

[ccp4bb] Rosetta vs Modeller

2009-12-15 Thread subhendu chakraborti
Hi everyone, I am currently in the process of solving some antigen-antibody complex structures. I was wondering if people here have used Modeller and Rosetta for homology modeling and have any recommendations.I would like to build the model of the antigen/antibody to the known structure of the anti

Re: [ccp4bb] When can I say the refinement is done?

2009-12-15 Thread Bernhard Rupp
page 682 :-) BR From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pavel Afonine Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:24 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] When can I say the refinement is done? This is pointed out (in absolutely unobvious way - I wish I can

Re: [ccp4bb] overexpression of unintended protein

2009-12-15 Thread Karthik S
thanks to all for the replies. the protein of interest is a membrane associated (lipoprotein) but i express this without the signal sequence in the cytoplasmic context. also it is not his-tagged, to address the debate of protein crystallize with or without the tag i presume as one reason. also the

Re: [ccp4bb] overexpression of unintended protein

2009-12-15 Thread James Holton
I saw something like this once that turned out to be CAT (chloramphenicol acetyltransferase) denatured and entangled with a massive amount of RNA (which was yellow). I was not using chloramphenicol, but an examination of the vector lineage reminded me that the gene was in there. This aggregat

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Christian Biertuempfel
Hi Rafael, If you really want to diffract your crystals frozen, I have two more suggestions for cryo-procedures which can be tried: a) annealing e.g. Harp, J.; Timm, D. & Bunick, G. Macromolecular crystal annealing: overcoming increased mosaicity associated with cryocrystallography. Acta Crystallo

Re: [ccp4bb] TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread James Holton
This is generally the result of strain upon cooling. I. E. the outside of the crystal is shrinking and the inside is expanding. The trick is to match the density of the stuff in the solvent channels upon cooling to the preferred final density of the lattice (Juers and Matthews, (2004) Acta D6

[ccp4bb] overexpression of unintended protein

2009-12-15 Thread Karthik S
Hi, I apologize immediately that this question is not directly related to crystallography but the protein i am trying to overexpress is eventually for that purpose. i understand the huge knowledge-base of people here experienced in protein expression/purification and would appreciate any insight in

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem in rerunning old job - ccp4 6.1.0 IF 2.0.3

2009-12-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
The electron density snapshots I can understand on some level - after all, picture is sometimes worth thousand words. But it does take a "windows person" to post Mb-sized picture instead of a one-line error message. On the substance, you should probably do what the program suggests - check the m

Re: [ccp4bb] H32 or R 3 2 :H

2009-12-15 Thread Ronald E Stenkamp
I appreciate learning that the R32/H32 tangle was based on a wwPDB recommendation. For some reason, I find it calming to view this as a PDB issue and not a ccp4 one. Ron On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Eleanor Dodson wrote: Just a correction - ccp4 had NOTHING to do with H32 definitions - just followe

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Also try growing them in the presence of the cryoprotectants... Jacob *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical Scientist Training Program Dallos Laboratory F. Searle 1-240 2240 Campus Drive Evanston IL 60208 lab: 847.491.2438 cel: 773.608.9

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot 0.6: new binaries and NEW CITATION

2009-12-15 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Kay Diederichs wrote: Kevin Cowtan schrieb: Emsley P, Lohkamp B, Scott W, Cowtan K (2010) "Features and Development of Coot" Acta Cryst D66 (in press) Sorry, I wouldn't like to cite a paper whose contents I don't know. Excellent! I think the corresponding author may be able to provide y

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
With salt-based conditions sodium malonate is your friend: Acta Cryst D59: 2356 On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:20 +, Natalie Zhao wrote: > -Original Message- > From: owner-c...@dl.ac.uk [mailto:owner-c...@dl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rafael > Couñago > Sent: 14 December 2009 20:22 > To: c...@ccp

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Matthew BOWLER
You could try conditioning your crystals in a dehydration device (such as the FMS (proteros) or the HC1 (EMBL)). Even if you crystals don't improve from dehydration they can often be cryocooled without any cryoprotectant after the mother liquor has been removed. We offer the HC1b at the ESRF

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Jan Schoepe
Did you also try a cryo salt (e.g. Li+)? In the best case the xtals might even grow in there. GL Jan --- Natalie Zhao schrieb am Di, 15.12.2009: Von: Natalie Zhao Betreff: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Datum: Dienstag, 15. Dezember 2009, 13:20 -Orig

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Re: [ccp4bb] Coot 0.6: new binaries and NEW CITATION

2009-12-15 Thread Kay Diederichs
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Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
You can also set your cryostream to something like 253K... or even lower with high salt. Better than RT and still no freezing. You need to use one of these new loop covers to prevent drying out. Flip mjvanraaij wrote: why not stay with room temp? many structures have been solved at RT... Ma

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread mjvanraaij
why not stay with room temp? many structures have been solved at RT... Mark J. van Raaij Dpto de Bioquimica, Facultad de Farmacia Universidad de Santiago 15782 Santiago de Compostela Spain http://web.usc.es/~vanraaij/ researcherID: B-3678-2009 On 15 Dec 2009, at 13:20, Natalie Zhao wrote:

[ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling

2009-12-15 Thread Natalie Zhao
-Original Message- From: owner-c...@dl.ac.uk [mailto:owner-c...@dl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Rafael Couñago Sent: 14 December 2009 20:22 To: c...@ccp4.ac.uk Subject: [ccp4]: TDS upon flashcooling Dear all, I got these beautiful looking crystals that grow in high salt (1.8M) and diffract under

Re: [ccp4bb] H32 or R 3 2 :H

2009-12-15 Thread George M. Sheldrick
I think that we have been here before. It is a lot less confusing for users if the program checks the cell dimensions to see which setting is being used. For example SHELXC will interpret both "R 3 2" and "h32" correctly for either hexagonal or primitive rhombohedral axes. There is really no exc

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D search for peptide conformers?

2009-12-15 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
I think SPASM by Gerard Kleywegt is a great tool for this sort of thing - you can set the similarity matrix threshold to make it more or less sequence independent (it still calculates the sequence match which is good for looking for key residues in the motif like structurally required GLYs). You

Re: [ccp4bb] H32 or R 3 2 :H

2009-12-15 Thread Martyn Winn
I have no opinion on what should be written (such debates are a world of pain) but I tried to make csymlib accept anything. I tried ncont (as an example of a C++ program) and contact (as an example of a Fortran program) and both seemed happy with such a CRYST1 line. CCP4 is pretty heterogenous, so

Re: [ccp4bb] H32 or R 3 2 :H

2009-12-15 Thread Nathaniel Echols
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > Yes, the PDB required format is H 32 - but the xHM symbol is: 'R 3 2 :H' > > I guess the PHENIX group are trying to pressurise the wwwPDB to change.. > You'd have to ask Ralf. Besides, it isn't just PHENIX/CCTBX that uses this notation: h

Re: [ccp4bb] H32 or R 3 2 :H

2009-12-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Just a correction - ccp4 had NOTHING to do with H32 definitions - just followed the wwwPDB requirements.. there were bitter arguments over accepting it from many! E Peter Zwart wrote: Hi Stephen, R32 H32 R32 :H Correct. These are all hexagonal setting. As far as I know, the hexagonal set

Re: [ccp4bb] H32 or R 3 2 :H

2009-12-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Yes, the PDB required format is H 32 - but the xHM symbol is: 'R 3 2 :H' I guess the PHENIX group are trying to pressurise the wwwPDB to change.. symbol Hall ' R 3 2"' symbol xHM 'R 3 2 :H' symbol old 'H 3 2' Anyway as a mere user compromise is probably the simplest solution! Eleanor Ja

[ccp4bb] TARDIS v2: a central, searchable index for federated raw crystallography data

2009-12-15 Thread Ashley Buckle
We are pleased to announce the release of TARDIS v2 at http://tardis.edu.au TARDIS v2 provides a central, searchable index for federated raw crystallography data. If you are interested in the safe storage and simple annotation of your diffraction data (eg as soon as it comes off the detector),