Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating ligand-protein binding energy and contact

2007-02-21 Thread Arti S. Pandey
Hey Jeremy, I havent used this myself, but I believe APBS can do it. You can do it on their server or locally after downloading the program. Arti Pandey > Hi, all > > Does anybody have experience with binding energy calculation of > ligand-protein > interaction? What are the good programs o

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread Peter Zwart
This usually leads to a mad chase through all possible space groups, twinning refinements, etc. and, in my experience, often results in a lot of time being spent for no significant improvements. If one has a model to refine, it is actually very straightforward to test all possible merohedral

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating ligand-protein binding energy and contact

2007-02-21 Thread Jeremy Tame
When you say you want an easy-to-get-easy-to-use binding energy/contact area calculator I assume you mean a simple scoring function. I have suggested that such functions cannot achieve reliable, accurate general affinity estimation (pdfs sent separately), and so far this seems to be borne out (s

Re: [ccp4bb] dmmulti NCS mask

2007-02-21 Thread Jianghai Zhu
Forgot to mention that the NCSs are improper. On Feb 21, 2007, at 6:22 PM, Jianghai Zhu wrote: Dear all, I have two low resolution (3.8 A) MAD data sets from two different space groups. There are 4 copies of my molecule in one space group and 2 copies in the other. The density-modified

[ccp4bb] dmmulti NCS mask

2007-02-21 Thread Jianghai Zhu
Dear all, I have two low resolution (3.8 A) MAD data sets from two different space groups. There are 4 copies of my molecule in one space group and 2 copies in the other. The density-modified maps from these data sets are poor, but still allow me to build a crude model on them. All the

Re: [ccp4bb] MR in P1 space group

2007-02-21 Thread Miguel Ortiz-Lombardia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Uhnsoo, AMoRe will not run the translation function for the **first** body (an hetero-dimer in your case) because in P1 the origin is arbitrary and hence fixed by the first rotation solution. Now, if you think that the first solution from the rotat

Re: [ccp4bb] MR in P1 space group

2007-02-21 Thread Mark A. White
Uhnsoo, Well you only have half of your 4-heterodimers, so your phases are poor, particularly for the missing 50% of your structure. DM and NCS averaging/solvent flattening will only work if the missing 50% can be properly masked. One possible out from this hole is to try RESOLVE. If you tell R

[ccp4bb] MR in P1 space group

2007-02-21 Thread ecoli72
Dear all, Recently, I've gotten a 3.1A data set with a P1 space group. Based on a Mattchew coefficient, I have 4 hetero-dimer molecules in one asymmetric unit. Because one of the dimers was known already, I tried MR with a program Phaser and molrep (Amore doesn't calculate a translation function

[ccp4bb] NCS Phased Refinement

2007-02-21 Thread Radisky, Evette S. Ph.D.
I have some questions about the "NCS Phased Refinement" task run from ccp4i: Can one use this task if there are multiple nonidentical chains in the NCS unit (e.g. a heterodimer), and if so, how does one define the NCS units? I find that the default is to consider each chain as a separate "NCS uni

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread Jessica Lynn Vey
Hi, I think a problem I've had with my thesis project applies to this discussion: My Rfactors, after having built a reasonable model into experimental maps in P3121, were stuck in the upper 40s, and would absolutely not go lower. Trying the other space group options (P31, C2) didn't help, and t

[ccp4bb] Calculating ligand-protein binding energy and contact

2007-02-21 Thread Xu TAN
Hi, all Does anybody have experience with binding energy calculation of ligand-protein interaction? What are the good programs out there ? I am aware of several such as AutoDock, Dock, Tinker, but they seem to be made for docking, I am looking for easy-to-get-easy-to-use binding energy/contact

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread David Schwefel
oops didn't read that first one... but from my own experience, twin refinement can lead to significant improvements (10 percent drop in R-factors) -- "Feel free" - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/promail-out

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread William Scott
Dear Eleanor et al: mmtbx.xtriage, which is part of the full-blown ccp4 install, and phenix.xtriage, which I think is basically the same thing, are also options, and run a variety of twinning and other sanity checks. mmtbx.xtriage --help tells how to run it, fairly painlessly. All the best, B

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread David Schwefel
maybe interesting literature concerning this topic: Lebedev AA, Vagin AA, Murshudov GN Intensity statistics in twinned crystals with examples from the PDB. Acta Crystallogr D Biol Crystallogr. 2006 Jan;62(Pt 1):83-95. -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal f

[ccp4bb] [Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?]

2007-02-21 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
- It's very possible with any overlap of lattice points, even in the lower symmetry space groups. To extend Eleanor's list: For example, I once had a structure with the unit cell relationship 3c cos(beta) = -a. In cases like that, it's not really a c

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
It's very possible with any overlap of lattice points, even in the lower symmetry space groups. To extend Eleanor's list: For example, I once had a structure with the unit cell relationship 3c cos(beta) = -a. In cases like that, it's not really a clean diffraction, but looks very much like a single

[ccp4bb] Post-doc and PhD position available

2007-02-21 Thread Klaus Piontek
Dear all, Please could you bring this advert to the attention of any potential candidates. Institute of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry at the Albert-Ludwigs-University Freiburg/Germany A post-doc position and a PhD position in structural biology is available in the group of Prof. Diet

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
There are many and various reasons for unpleasantly high R values, and twinning is undoubtedly one of them. But you can only have twinning with apparently good diffraction if the cell dimensions allow it. It is always a possibility in trigonal, tetragonal and cubic cells. Certain other comb

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread Roberto Steiner
Hi Sue, This reference has very useful info Lebedev AA, Vagin AA, Murshudov GN. Intensity statistics in twinned crystals with examples from the PDB. Acta Crystallogr D Biol Crystallogr. 2006 Jan;62(Pt 1):83-95. Epub 2005 Dec 14. PMID: 16369097 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Roberto On 21

Re: [ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread Kay Diederichs
Sue Roberts wrote: Hello A partially philosophical, partially pragmatic question. I've noticed a trend, both on ccp4bb and locally, to jump to twinning as an explanation for data sets which do not refine well - that is data sets with R and Rfree stuck above whatever the person's pre-conceived

Re: [ccp4bb] artificial lowering of R-factors by assuming twinning ?

2007-02-21 Thread Ulrich Genick
Hi, here is a question for the crystallography jocks out there. Stimulated by Sue Roberts' email here is a thought experiment that I have puzzled about in the past. Basically I think that if one has a wrong structure and then assumes the crystal is twinned one will get a lower R-factor. No

[ccp4bb] how many stuck datasets are actually twinned?

2007-02-21 Thread Sue Roberts
Hello A partially philosophical, partially pragmatic question. I've noticed a trend, both on ccp4bb and locally, to jump to twinning as an explanation for data sets which do not refine well - that is data sets with R and Rfree stuck above whatever the person's pre- conceived idea of an acce

Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 with more that 2 million observations

2007-02-21 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato
Todd, Markus, Misha, Robi, Fabrizio, thanks for the answers. Indeed I'm scaling the data at the command line, now (good ol' way!). The scalepackBig command does not exist anymore, but the ones you've suggested work fine. I was just wondering if there's a way to tell HKL2000 which command to use.

Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space Correlation coefficients

2007-02-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
overlapmap does this for any set of coordinates and any map. Eleanor Charles W. Carter Jr. wrote: Is there a CCP4 program that will calculate residue-by-residue correlation coefficients for a molecular replacement solution and an experimentally phased map? Thanks, Charlie **UNCryst

Re: [ccp4bb] Real Space Correlation coefficients

2007-02-21 Thread Sudharsan Sridharan
Hi, you may want to try the Bias removal Server at tuna.tamu.edu HTH, Sid. On 2/20/07, Charles W. Carter Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a CCP4 program that will calculate residue-by-residue correlation coefficients for a molecular replacement solution and an experimentally phased map?

Re: [ccp4bb] Advice on img proc software

2007-02-21 Thread Christoph Best
Bernhard Rupp writes: > Mathlab image proc module probably would be the best choice but muchas > dollares > I found by accident that a cheaper alternative is any graphing package that > can make > contour plots. Try Python with scipy/pylab/matplotlib. It comes with a full library of numerica

[ccp4bb] HKL2000 with more that 2 million observations

2007-02-21 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato
Hi there, does anyone know how to use HKL2000 with more than 2 million observations (that would be the "scalepackbig" version of scalepack)? At the moment, the scaling ends with "process died" when it reaches the 200th observation read from the .x files. thanks in advance, Sebastiano --

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactor does not drop

2007-02-21 Thread Karsten Suhre
Hi Tim, an R-factor of 0.64 does not sound like a solution. You may try submitting your problem to our automated MR server CaspR and see if something pops up : http://www.igs.cnrs-mrs.fr/Caspr2/ Kind regards, Karsten. On Monday 19 February 2007 17:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would take