Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-21 Thread Shaughn
I like it. Very nice CCIE # 23962 (SP) On Thursday, October 21, 2010, Marko Milivojevic wrote: > There is also expanded checklist. Brace yourselves... > > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-10145 > > Now... this is what I call blueprint for SP! :-) > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #184

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-21 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
Wow that new blueprint is excellent -terrifying but excellent One thing I don't understand is the section 5.1 and 5.2 -any thoughts please??? The other thing I didn't get it why they have put the BGP Route Dampening in there -it's commonly understood that I causes more bad than good -I guess it's

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-21 Thread Gaurav Thukral
Awesome blueprint. First time i have seen a ultimate blueprint . Cisco specially designed IP FRR for one of its Customer , I can not disclose the name of that customer & Cisco put that in our blueprint . Regards, Gaurav On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Marko Milivojevic wrote: > There is also ex

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-21 Thread Marko Milivojevic
There is also expanded checklist. Brace yourselves... https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-10145 Now... this is what I call blueprint for SP! :-) -- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture Mailto: mar...@ipexpert.c

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-21 Thread FUCHS Peter
Finally it's there: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-10121 Lab Equipment *Cisco XR12000 Series Routers *Cisco 7200/7600 Series equivalent Routers (Using Simulator) *Cisco ME3400E Series Switches Software Versions *XR12000 routers running IOS-XR Software Version 3.9

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Gaurav Thukral
Gaurav Thukral; groupstudy; OSL Service Provider > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint > > so, how i can emulate Cisco Ios Xr? > > 2010/10/20, Marko Milivojevic : > > I haven't heard of that one so far, but I suspect that may be true. If

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Marko Milivojevic
Andrey Petrenko > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:47 PM > To: Marko Milivojevic > Cc: Gaurav Thukral; groupstudy; OSL Service Provider > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint > > so, how i can emulate Cisco Ios Xr? > > 2010/10/20, Marko Milivojevic

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Gaurav Thukral
Marko , Cisco Internally they are using sun m/c's to simulate IOS XR. But they are very high end Sun Servers. They are using one sun m/c as a line card. But how they are connected that even i do not know. They are using it for testing purpose. Regards, Gaurav On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:27 PM, G

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Gaurav Thukral
Do Not worry man , It is very tough for us to simulate . We need a huge infra to simulate IOS XR so better to use IPexpert Rack Rentals. They will start it soon. Regards, Gaurav On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Andrey Petrenko wrote: > bad, i have't any Sun machine. in my country nobody have re

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Andrey Petrenko
bad, i have't any Sun machine. in my country nobody have real hardware with Cisco Ios Xr. 2010/10/20, Gaurav Thukral : > We Can simulate it on Sun Machine. One sun m/c for one line card. > > Regards, > Gaurav > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Andrey Petrenko > wrote: > >> so, how i can emulate

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Gaurav Thukral
We Can simulate it on Sun Machine. One sun m/c for one line card. Regards, Gaurav On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Andrey Petrenko wrote: > so, how i can emulate Cisco Ios Xr? > > 2010/10/20, Marko Milivojevic : > > I haven't heard of that one so far, but I suspect that may be true. If > > they

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Andrey Petrenko
so, how i can emulate Cisco Ios Xr? 2010/10/20, Marko Milivojevic : > I haven't heard of that one so far, but I suspect that may be true. If > they have it the same way they have IOU, then it's a distinct > possibility. I suppose we'll have to wait and see. > > -- > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Marko Milivojevic
I haven't heard of that one so far, but I suspect that may be true. If they have it the same way they have IOU, then it's a distinct possibility. I suppose we'll have to wait and see. -- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLect

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Gaurav Thukral
Cisco also has a IOS XR Simulator they can also use that. Regards, Gaurav On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Marko Milivojevic wrote: > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:30, Markus BC6ing > wrote: > >> ... then again, mix of XR and IOS in IOU is a possibility for not so > >> much money. > > > > XR & IOU

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Marko Milivojevic
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 13:30, Markus Böing wrote: >> ... then again, mix of XR and IOS in IOU is a possibility for not so >> much money. > > XR & IOU? I don't think they go together. IOU supports talking to live systems. Therefore, one server running multiple IOU instances can be connected to co

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Marko Milivojevic
IOS XE is the same IOS running virtualized in underlying Linux kernel on ASR1k. From a user perspective, it looks and feels just like a regular IOS. IOS XR on the other hand is significantly different than IOS from the user perspective. Syntax is different, concepts are different (commit and rollba

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Markus Böing
> ... then again, mix of XR and IOS in IOU is a possibility for not so > much money. XR & IOU? I don't think they go together. Bregs, Markus ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Marko Milivojevic
> - There will be significant troubleshooting portion, but I don't > expect a dedicated section on it. The reason why is that IOS XR can't, > to the best of my knowledge, be virtualized. Dedicated TS section > would require two hardware pods per student and that's unrealistic. If > they focus troub

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-20 Thread Marko Milivojevic
There were no mention of the either. In fact, there was not even mention of the new hardware. I'm not entirely happy with the information available as of right now, but the new exam is coming in 6 months. There is plenty of time to prepare for it and I'm sure Cisco will publish additional informati

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Service Provider
Let me rephrase the question. Will the new SP lab exam include a 2-hour troubleshooting section? Some form of troubleshooting has been included in the current version of the exam. What about the OEQs? On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Marko Milivojevic wrote: > No troubleshooting? They mention th

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Marko Milivojevic
gt;> From: mar...@ipexpert.com >> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:35:49 + >> To: ccie_sp@onlinestudylist.com; ccie...@groupstudy.com >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> New CCIE SP blueprint has (fi

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Antonio Dee
groupstudy.com > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint > > Hello everyone, > > New CCIE SP blueprint has (finally) been announced. You can find the > link here: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-9991 > > My initial reaction is pretty confu

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Tyson Scott
study; OSL Service Provider Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint Hi No troubleshooting and the OEQs seems as if they remain - thought they would make it the same as R&S. Awaiting the equipment list on the lab. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Marko Milivojevic

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Marko Milivojevic
No troubleshooting? They mention that word in every single line of the blueprint :-) -- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture Mailto: mar...@ipexpert.com Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ On Tue,

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Marko Milivojevic
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP) > amsoa...@netcabo.pt > > -Original Message- > From: ccie_sp-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > [mailto:ccie_sp-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Marko Milivojevic > Sent: terça-feira, 19 de Outubro de 2010 09:36 > T

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Syed Asif Hussain Shah
ipment. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S/SP) >>> amsoa...@netcabo.pt >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: ccie_sp-boun...@onlinestudylist.com >>> [mailto:ccie_sp-boun...@

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Service Provider
Hi No troubleshooting and the OEQs seems as if they remain - thought they would make it the same as R&S. Awaiting the equipment list on the lab. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Marko Milivojevic wrote: > Hello everyone, > > New CCIE SP blueprint has (finally) been announced. You can find the >

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Gaurav Thukral
73 (R&S/SP) >> amsoa...@netcabo.pt >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ccie_sp-boun...@onlinestudylist.com >> [mailto:ccie_sp-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Marko >> Milivojevic >> Sent: terça-feira, 19 de Outubro de 2010 09:36 >>

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Gaurav Thukral
arko > Milivojevic > Sent: terça-feira, 19 de Outubro de 2010 09:36 > To: OSL Service Provider; groupstudy > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint > > Hello everyone, > > New CCIE SP blueprint has (finally) been announced. You can find the > link

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Antonio Soares
-Original Message- From: ccie_sp-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_sp-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Marko Milivojevic Sent: terça-feira, 19 de Outubro de 2010 09:36 To: OSL Service Provider; groupstudy Subject: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint Hello

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Gaurav Thukral
I think they will upgrade the devices from 7200 to 7600 for VPLS & for IOS XR 12k. Cisco will not add CRS i think so . I think XR will be in the core & all the CE will be on IOS. Regards, Gaurav On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:31 PM, eseosa wrote: > Implement, Optimize and Troubleshoot VPLS and Carrie

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Matt Hill
Depends when you want to sit your lab :) Quote: Candidates who have exams scheduled April 18, 2011 or later should prepare using the CCIE Service Provider Lab Exam v3.0 Topics (blueprint) listed below. Candidates who have exams scheduled prior to April 18, 2011 should continue using the existing C

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Marko Milivojevic
We have been preparing for the change at IPexpert for some time now, including building new racks to support the new blueprint (with IOS XR devices). It will be some time before we announce new products, but they should be ready in the next couple of months. By the look of it, our material covers

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Syed Asif Hussain Shah
Hi, I am new to SP and I was preparing my LAB exam with the INE and IP expert lab books. I was wondering how much the change will be? Is it a new whole thing or still we can rely on the old workbooks from INE and IPExpert? Best Regards, ASif On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Marko Milivojevic w

Re: [OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Gaurav Thukral
The wait is over now. Regards, Gaurav On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Nadeem Rafi wrote: > thanks.. > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Marko Milivojevic >wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > New CCIE SP blueprint has (finally) been announced. You can find the > > link here: https:/

[OSL | CCIE_SP] New CCIE Service Provider Blueprint

2010-10-19 Thread Marko Milivojevic
Hello everyone, New CCIE SP blueprint has (finally) been announced. You can find the link here: https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-9991 My initial reaction is pretty confused, as the blueprint is FAR from detailed. At best, it offers some vague idea and it appears it was cut short (only 5