Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-26 Thread Elpie
We have already felt the pain Nate ;) Mambo has a core + core extensions. With the release of Mambo 4.6 a couple of years ago we began releasing two versions, which were called "Mambo" (or, in the earlier days, "Mambo Complete") and "Mambo Lite". Mambo Lite is the core with no core extensions. All

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-26 Thread Elpie
I don't see that as an option. One thing that has to be done well, right from the outset, is the planning. A lot of work is currently being done in that area. I agree with the comments made by James K. on that - if Mambo is not planned well we will limit ourselves too much. The current developmen

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-25 Thread Jay Reeder
Would it be feasible to merge one of the existing Cake CMS projects into this new effort to provide a head-start? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:12 PM, MattC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I second what Nate said, especially #2. > > It would be awesome if Mambo was both a full standalone CMS, but also

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-25 Thread MattC
I second what Nate said, especially #2. It would be awesome if Mambo was both a full standalone CMS, but also a plugin that could be dropped into any Cake app to provide CMS functionality. -Matt http://www.pseudocoder.com On Nov 25, 1:55 pm, andphe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Nate, > > On N

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-25 Thread andphe
Hi Nate, On Nov 25, 11:20 am, Nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Based on your stated goals, the two suggestions I would add are: > > (1) Develop as many of Mambo's features as possible as extensions. > This will not only make the CMS itself as flexible as possible (and > the CMS's extension API a

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-25 Thread Nate
Based on your stated goals, the two suggestions I would add are: (1) Develop as many of Mambo's features as possible as extensions. This will not only make the CMS itself as flexible as possible (and the CMS's extension API as robust as possible), but it will also help you 'feel the pain' of exte

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-25 Thread andphe
Hi James, > On Nov 25, 1:27 am, James K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Simple - if you're starting from scratch, seriously start over and > > rethink a lot of the fundamentals. > > > Mambo's idea of what content is and how it should be organized within > > a CMS is very outdated and short sight

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-25 Thread keymaster
Very good advice. Ignore at mambo's peril. On Nov 25, 1:27 am, James K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simple - if you're starting from scratch, seriously start over and > rethink a lot of the fundamentals. > > Mambo's idea of what content is and how it should be organized within > a CMS is very ou

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-24 Thread James K
Simple - if you're starting from scratch, seriously start over and rethink a lot of the fundamentals. Mambo's idea of what content is and how it should be organized within a CMS is very outdated and short sighted. Joomla's been making a valiant effort to modernize the Mambo codebase, but it stil

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-20 Thread andphe
Thanks for the feedback.. > What I see a lot is people looking for a admin backend that actually > works. > A CMS just for the MS. > I think that a fashion way of delivering data to views, and a good UI > work on admin end is what people really seek. @Rafael, we are aware of the challenge that a

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-20 Thread teemow
A huge benefit for the community would be a content repository behavior. This would be somehow similar to phishys versionable, but special to content versioning. There is a specification for java content repositories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_repository_API_for_Java Java reference im

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-19 Thread mbavio
On Nov 19, 12:47 pm, andphe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, I'm on Mambo Dev team, and we realize that while we are > planning our major rewrite of Mambo based on CakePHP, we are not > hearing what the CakePHP community have to say. > > Specifically it would be good to have a brainstorm here,

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-19 Thread mark_story
For me a clean API that is easy to use is something that I would want in a CMS. Many of the popular CMS have very complicated API's or multiple API's which are confusing. As for theming, keep it simple. I'm not familiar with the mambo code base, but I despise non PHP templates. It just makes thi

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-19 Thread Rafael Bandeira aka rafaelbandeira3
What I see a lot is people looking for a admin backend that actually works. A CMS just for the MS. I think that a fashion way of delivering data to views, and a good UI work on admin end is what people really seek. Modularity and extensibility are huge pluses - but not strictly necessary. --~--~--

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-19 Thread andphe
Hi Olivier, thanks for reply On 19 nov, 10:29, "Olivier Percebois-Garve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > Since the announcement of the rewrite (a year ago ?), I tried a few times to > check the progress, Yes, a long time ago, my apologize for that, a lot of water has passed under the bridge si

Re: Mambo on CakePHP brainstorm

2008-11-19 Thread Olivier Percebois-Garve
Hi Since the announcement of the rewrite (a year ago ?), I tried a few times to check the progress, but I could not find anything. So personally, the first thing I would expect, is to have a publicly readable repository from which i could download the last dev version. After that, I would love the