Hello,
I'm trying to set things up for CakePHP and was unsure how to figure
out who the web server user is, and how to then change the permissions
for the tmp directory to make it writable by that web server user.
Thanks for any help,
J
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The query code should go in the controller. It might look something
like this:
$this->set('stats',$this->Model->find('all',array('fields'=>array
('field1','field2';
In your view code you would do something like this:
On Feb 3, 12:23 am, aman batr
I have researched this problem and have already removed any blank
space after the closing php tag.
Here is the controller code:
function beforeFilter() {
if(isset($this->params['admin'])) {
$this->checkAdminSession();
$allowed =
hello..i want to create a table in my admin page so that i can see the
stats of site directly. how can i make a table and then how to fetch
the mysql queries of number of views and no of entities on my site on
the table column. the code for table must be in the view.ctp ?? and
where to write the
hi,
everyone
the value of _SERVER["HTTP_COOKIE"] are different,
the domain 1 is
CAKEPHP=903164a556083a14845a2dabadcbf170;
__utmz=135676141.1233124975.44.3.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=%22%E6%A0%AA%E5%BC%8F%20%E4%BC%9A%E7%A4%BE%20%E3%82%BC%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%22;
PHPSESSID=
Youll usually have conflicts between js frameworks unless you build
one specifically to not interfere with the other.
Your best bet is to use one or the other. If you use extjs, create
your own helper for it.
On Feb 2, 9:11 pm, Aurelius wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I really like the Ajax-Helper, but the ex
add,
in the PC, 2 domain can been login very good.
2009/2/3 Rimoe
> hi,
>
> everyone.
>
> I have used 2 domain to view my site by mobile,
>
> The domain 1 can been login.
> but the domain 2 can't been login.
>
> I think the cause is apache's config
> which one apache setting is wrong,
> I do
To me cake will always be one higher, to me it is an ELEVEN ;)
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:12 PM, mark_story wrote:
>
> Wow I'm a total tard. Way to press cancel, instead of send on that
> last message. Let this be a lesson to all on how not to use gmail..
>
> Anyways, might as well finish that
Wow I'm a total tard. Way to press cancel, instead of send on that
last message. Let this be a lesson to all on how not to use gmail..
Anyways, might as well finish that thought. What I was trying to say,
was that is that people love comparisons and top ten lists. If you
can itemize and order
Hi!
I really like the Ajax-Helper, but the extJS-Framework has some
function which are not provided by prototype, so is there any reason
why not to use both at the same time (beside a bit more download at
the first page)?
thx
Aurelius
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Oh noes!
honestly, I only care about making the best framework we can. Every
frameowkr
On Feb 1, 7:11 pm, yusuf widi wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were
hi,
everyone.
I have used 2 domain to view my site by mobile,
The domain 1 can been login.
but the domain 2 can't been login.
I think the cause is apache's config
which one apache setting is wrong,
I don't know.
If you know,please tell me, Thank you very much.
rimoe
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Mohammad Al-Ani, you really found your real problem - your page is not
UTF-8 page! %xx form is url-encoded non-ANSI string as only 7-bit
symbols can be used in URLs. That's why browers encode non-ANSI
symbols and then they are automatically decoded by Cake before go into
params. Some of browsers s
Well, i wasn't able to make one central update function to cover both
models, but here is what I did just in case some other newbie needs
help:
VIEW/
//This code is in the view and updates the '$phd_users['PhdUser']
['lastName']' div.
editor(
$phd_users['PhdUser']['lastName'],
array(
I misread your original post. I think what you need to do is call
render(), not redirect().
$this->render('chartofaccounts');
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Mickiii wrote:
>
> Thanks Brian, however if I remove the redirect call it displays the
> view for the function "add", i.e. the add.ctp (w
Ok guyz... thanks for response. I think that website is only accessories
only for us. :)
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:18 AM, ache...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> And now the site has been completely F'ed. It looks like they aren't
> sanitizing their data (shame on them) and now people have figured out
> tha
Xoubaman,
use var $helpers = array(..., 'Paginator'); in your AppController.
make sure you fetch your data by using $this->paginate() in your
controller to avoid the undefined indexes you're getting.
Don't use renderElement() it has been deprecated, use element()
instead.
Hope that will set yo
Oops and also remove this:
} else {
$this->Session->setFlash('Venligt ret
fejlene herunder',
'default', array('class'=>'bad'));
$this->redirect('chartofaccounts');
}
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I see what your saying, do this:
if($this->Ledgeraccount->validates()) {
if ($this->Ledgeraccount->save($this->data, false)) {
$this->redirect('chartofaccounts');
}
}
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Miles, is that not what the 'url' option is doing?
On Feb 2, 10:54 pm, Miles J wrote:
> Just change the url the form is posting to.
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Create a custom method for doing this, instead of doing it in
beforeValidate(). (You will have to change the $this->data a bit).
function checkCode() {
App::import('Core','Sanitize');
$clean = Sanitize::stripScripts($this->data['Comment']
['comment']);
$clean = Sa
Just change the url the form is posting to.
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Awsome Martin. Thanks. I did try this a few days back before posting
but could get it to work. I'll try again in case I did something
wrong.
Cheers,
bwragg
On Feb 2, 11:51 pm, Martin Westin wrote:
> You can probably do something like this:
>
> 1. make a copy of app/webroot/index.php - call it
You simply tell the model what the name of the table is as described
here: http://book.cakephp.org/view/436/useTable
You can always use existing table structure, it's just a little easier
with things that follow the Cake convention.
I do something similar with the primary key fields in my DB, si
Well, that to me would seem to mean that you are indeed trying to
access the page from a page that is not defined as UTF-8.
>From Firefox, if I type مقال into the Google search box, I get a
return search of
http://www.google.com/search?q=مقال&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
Hang on, I just found this post in the Bakery:
http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/validation-in-another-controller
Does that still apply? Or has there been done anything built in stuff
in the latest version of Cake?
On Feb 2, 9:40 pm, Mickiii wrote:
> Thanks Brian, however if I remove the
Using elements?
On 2 fév, 15:14, Aurelius wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Whats the best way to read a layout from the database?
>
> Simply writing a model for the layout-table and using following layout-
> code?
> echo $database_layout['top'];
> echo $scripts_for_layout;
> echo $database_layout['middle'];
>
Thanks Brian, however if I remove the redirect call it displays the
view for the function "add", i.e. the add.ctp (which doesnt exists),
but I want it to go back to chartofaccounts where the form is, and
then display the errors there.
On Feb 2, 9:30 pm, brian wrote:
> You don't need to redirect.
Those methods aren't included in the API because they don't
technically exist and the docs are generated from the source. The
findBy* methods are basically constructs of the model's schema and are
handled by Model::call__().
That's the nutshell version, anyway.
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Mo
You don't need to redirect. When you do so, the information stored in
$validationErrors is lost because you're making a new request. If you
remove the redirect() call, Cake should simply re-display the form.
Then if all is working well, FormHelper will take care of printing the
errors for you.
On
> http://cakeforge.org/frs/?group_id=53&release_id=76
Thanks for the link. However I noticed that this documentation is
incomplete...for instance AppModel.findAllBy is
missing...
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On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Chris Mc wrote:
>
> Mate, it's not you it's me . I'm simply guessing at what's working
> here to get my app to work. I just assumed that I could get some data
> on the homepage by using that file because that file renders the
> homepage screen. If there's som
Hi,
This is probably simple, but I can't find any specifics on it.
I have a controller called ledger_controller, which uses two models:
Ledgeraccount and Ledgertransaction. Within this controller i have a
function called chartofaccounts, which includes a form, with an action
that leads to the le
Hi!
Whats the best way to read a layout from the database?
Simply writing a model for the layout-table and using following layout-
code?
flash();
echo $content_for_layout; ?>
echo $database_layout['bottom'];
echo $cakeDebug;
?>
Or is there an more elegant way?
thx!
Aurelius
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Like many of you, we use alpha for production and... our application
( a large one) is working well. But it's the time for us to migrate to
1.2 final.
Where can we find a list of all the changes between the 2 versions.
I know that there are a lot of changes and I wonder if any one has
gone thru
You try to use saveAll?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Graham Weldon wrote:
>
>
> If some association exists between these objects, you can do something
> like:
>
> $this->User->save($this->data);
> $this->User->Site->save(array('Site' => array(
> 'user_id' => $this->User->id,
> // --- a
> Colour me confused, then. I have no idea how one would get Cake to use
> a view file at views/index.ctp short of changing the controller's
> $viewPath. Or, maybe this is something new to me.
Mate, it's not you it's me . I'm simply guessing at what's working
here to get my app to work. I ju
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Chris Mc wrote:
>
> LOL again. This is where I say "I'm a newbie, so I don't know what's
> happenning ;)". I think this is what I mean (and what you asked) ..
> the view is called from /views/index.ctp and I know this is being
> picked up properly because of the
thank you Dr. Loboto but i find the real problem.
i develop the site under firefox so if i use the internet explorer i can get
the arabic word like it it but when i use the firefox and search for word
like مقال the address of firefox will be
/search?keyword=مقال
and when i just confirm this link
> > Yes, I'm getting an empty table, the for loop just doesn't execute at
> > all, but all the other code works (even the stuff after the for)
>
> OK, so $restaurants is empty.
Yes, I understand that bit :)
> > Yes, I've been trying to do that. The controller action is a function
> > defined i
Now, i just have this:
[ relevant part of code ]
model Usuario
var $hasAndBelongsToMany = 'ObjetoAprendizagem';
model ObjetoAprendizagem
var $hasAndBelongsToMany = 'Usuario';
just this.
Thank you, I couldn't change the db because other people use it, and i
have to make a system using cake
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Chris Mc wrote:
>
> Hi brian,
>
>> Are you getting an empty table? Or, is Cake running into an error and
>> not continuing to output anything?
>
> Yes, I'm getting an empty table, the for loop just doesn't execute at
> all, but all the other code works (even the st
Hi brian,
> Are you getting an empty table? Or, is Cake running into an error and
> not continuing to output anything?
Yes, I'm getting an empty table, the for loop just doesn't execute at
all, but all the other code works (even the stuff after the for)
> If the former, it's likely that you hav
Let me tell you my dilemma:
I can't use the $this->paginate in the Model, probably because that's
a controller only method, but is there a way to set up the same
functionality (being able to pass in controller/action/page:1 and have
it paginate the results from a find('all') ???
Right now I have
I just voted it 40 stars, because that's just how good it is.
On Feb 2, 4:43 am, the_woodsman wrote:
> I just gave Cake a 5 star rating :)
>
> On Feb 2, 12:11 am, yusuf widi wrote:
>
> > Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> >http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> >
And now the site has been completely F'ed. It looks like they aren't
sanitizing their data (shame on them) and now people have figured out
that you can post whatever you want in there as a review. "I liked
cake for 500 stars." Look at the average, 5.3 means people are gaming
it. So, don't worry ab
I didn't until i googled for "is smaller than min_uid". I suspect the
problem is that your PHP scripts are owned by the httpd (apache) user.
They should be owned by you or some other regular user on the system.
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, CP wrote:
>
> Yes. any idea what this means
>
> [Mon
You can specify the table in your model $hasAndBelongsToMany array
(see 'joinTable' field).
http://book.cakephp.org/view/83/hasAndBelongsToMany-HABTM
What do you have in there now for those 2 models?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, persivo_cunha wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> i'm using HABTM but, how
@sunertl
I was refering more to the website you linked to than to your post.
I really liked this guy:
"It is poorly written. Just look at those lengthy functions."
Say what?
And Cake is off the list... all the top ones new "un-heard-of"
frameworks :)
But look at the id's.
Zend is id 1 (quite na
Are you getting an empty table? Or, is Cake running into an error and
not continuing to output anything?
If the former, it's likely that you haven't set a var named
'restaurants'. You need $this->set('restaurants', ...); in your
controller action.
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Chris Mc wrote:
Yes. any idea what this means
[Mon Feb 02 09:18:13 2009] [error] [client 99.186.32.62] SoftException
in Application.cpp:303: UID of script "/home/clarityp/public_html/
invoicr/webroot/index.php" is smaller than min_uid
[Mon Feb 02 09:17:22 2009] [error] [client 99.186.32.62] File does not
exist:
Hello.
My app has 3 models:
- Customer
- RMA
- Item
Customer hasMany Order hasMany Item.
each model has his own Controller.
everything works smoothly.
now i'm trying to code a particular form (first time for me). my goal
is to do something similar to this:
RMA.code (hidden, this field will b
I have an application build with cake 1.2.0.7962 and implementing the
simple authentication detailed in the online manual.
I just upgraded to 1.2.1.8004 and now can no longer log in.
No messages are displayed and 40 dots are displayed in the password
box (the length of the password string) when th
Auth does not enforce either case sensitivity or insensitivity. This
is all up to how you have your database configured.
If your database, table of field is set to a "_ci" collation you will
have case insensitive usernames. If you have a "_cs" or "_bin"
collation you will be case sensitive. (All M
I've discovered the view method renderElement, that has a parameter
called loadHelpers, false but default, that looked good.
But it doesn't work. The paginator helper isn't loaded and I'm getting
the same odd undefined indexes notices.
The renderElement method isn't properly explained neither in
The issue could be one of many things, not necessarily related to bake
at all. Have you checked the server log?
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:37 AM, CP wrote:
>
> I have cake installed at /cake/ of my server. I baked an application
> using
>
> cake -app /home/clarityp/www/invoicr
>
> when i accessed
I've not seen SQL errors, i asked because teached me wrong, without to
put hasMany, but i never had troubles.
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Hello,
i'm using HABTM but, how i didn't know it, my db doesn't follow the
cake's convention. I have two tables called 'objetos_aprendizagens'
and 'usuarios', but my join table is 'objeto_aprendizagem_autores' .
How can i use it without change my db?
Thanks.
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I imagine that you'd see some problems when doing find() from one of
the models that included associations to the other. But, if your find
conditions didn't refer to the other, I suppose it might work alright.
Why would you want to do this, though?
Anyway, did you try it? Are you seeing any SQL e
Hi,
I wanted to do something similar but did not get a thread response.
I wanted to append to cakes sql log from code that is written outside
cake or maybe use cake's model->query method so that would happen
automatically.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Vikas
On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 04:51 -0800, Martin
Hi,
I'm stuck :( I have been using ModelBaker to create my app and it went
extremely well until I wanted to start customising the code. I'm
learning CakePHP and MVC at the moment, but I've exceeded my curent
knowledge (which is pretty easy at the moment). Anyway, I've been
trying to customise t
Any way from outside the cake system?
Or any way to make the App::import function available in my existing
code?
On Feb 2, 8:04 pm, Miles J wrote:
> App::import('Model', 'ModelName');
> $model = new ModelName();
>
> But that would only work within the cake system itself.
>
> On Feb 1, 8:20 pm,b
I have discovered (with difficulty) the initDb and buildAcl functions
are called by going to them in the URLs, which is not documented in
any tutorials:
http://localhost/yourproject/users/initDB
http://localhost/yourproject/users/buildAcl
I get an error when running initDB but at least the permi
Oh I just realised the above code where it says $aroAlias, $acoAlias I
assume you should replace it with the right arcoAlias and $acoAlias I
think?? Anyway, still doesnt work if I enter:-
cake acl grant Administrators Users all
cake acl grant 1 Users all
still get same error whatever I try, and
hi gwoo i want to give you a email,but i don't know your email,so i
have a problem
about 1.20 bug
i write this in postcontroller ajax is well,but write this in
appcontroller is wrong,about ajax.
my website:www.zhuyinghao.com
var $helpers = array('Html', 'Form', 'Javascript', 'Ajax');
On 1月17日,
i from china,myblog is www.zhuyinghao.com
today i find a cakephp bug
i write this in my postcontroller is well,but in appcontroller can't
use it
var $helpers = array('Html', 'Form', 'Javascript', 'Ajax');
gwoo are you there?
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I am new cakephp user. How to make case sensitive username with auth
component?
When I login with my username "Sophy" or "sophy" it login successful.
I need to case sensitive with my username. how can I do?
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It is not as hard as you may think at first. The hard part about this
is figuring out what your language is called. :) There is an ISO
standard for this which can be a bit confusing.
Swedish (my native language) can be called up using:
swe - 3-letter version
sv - 2-letter version for standard Sw
That's too meta. Your head asplode.
On Feb 2, 10:57 am, Samuel DeVore wrote:
> nate do you have a top ten list of people who like to make top ten
> lists? I'm looking for the top 'ten list' maker to see how cakephp
> ranks among the top ten, ten list makers who make lists about the top
> ten
First off you would need shell access to your remote server, and can't
call it locally.
If your using CYgwin the commands should be identical, only the paths
will change. But you will need putty or similar if your running
windows locally.
Second, why don't you just replicate your local files and
nate do you have a top ten list of people who like to make top ten
lists? I'm looking for the top 'ten list' maker to see how cakephp
ranks among the top ten, ten list makers who make lists about the top
ten frameworks for the top ten languages... but they have to of made
at least 10 top ten li
That is quite a big difference. Thanks a lot for taking the time to share
this information. I wonder why the insane amount of calls to is_dir.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Loic Didelot wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I didnt get any feedback but I tried to debug a little further by
> comparing to my other
These kinds of top 10 lists are for people with nothing better to do
with their time than make top 10 lists.
On Feb 1, 7:11 pm, yusuf widi wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place?
I have cake installed at /cake/ of my server. I baked an application
using
cake -app /home/clarityp/www/invoicr
when i accessed the application at domain.com/invoicr i got an
internal server error 500. does anyone have any advice how to fix
this? have i got something setup wrong?
any help is mu
Hello all..
I want to convert my site in multilingual site.
I have read the tutorial of Internationalization in CakePHP at
http://book.cakephp.org/view/163/Internationalization-in-CakePHP. But
not so much helpful, also no idea about what url have to use...
So if somebody has a example file of "
Top 10 this, top 10 That... you know that 87% of all statics are
misleading :)
Use the one that makes sense for your project and the one that you
like working with...
There is no fair comparison of any framework that would be equally
great for any application.
(Well, besides cake of course ;))
Oh, if is seemed I cried jihad, i made something wrong! Maybe because
english is not my primary language...
To be honest I do not give a about the rank of a framework or
another. I use rankings like the mentioned one to look what is new in
the field of frameworks. This way I discovered Yii an
I recommend using some other file and then loading that file in the
bootstrap.
This way if you need to update cake files you don't have to worry
about overriding your stuff, well, only one line will be lost.
I use a appconfig.php file with my stuff and then I load it in the
bootstrap like this
I'd say that beforeFind should be used for thing that you want to run
at all times.
Instead of doing this in beforeFind you might want to create a custom
find which is a good way to enforce custom logic to the find operation
while leaving any associations and other internal queries alone.
As a s
Why do I hear the cries of Jihad every time I read about this vs that
framework :)
If that website is a guide the the best framework, then these are the
very best short films and videos.
http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=tr&c=0&l=&b=0
You decide popularity by voting and popular is not always the s
This /could/ be related to https://trac.cakephp.org/ticket/2056
On Feb 2, 2:40 am, Fred wrote:
> Thanks...that is very helpful. One thing to note it looks like the
> children method of a tree doesn't support callbacks of false (line 275
> of tree.php has only to recursive on the find, but no cal
You can probably do something like this:
1. make a copy of app/webroot/index.php - call it start_cake.php or
something and put it where you can include it.
In that file:
2. alter the include paths to suit your environment so that cake can
be found.
3. remove the call to Dispatcher almost at the
@leo I know what you mean. That is why, for two years, I stubbornly
kept using SmartSVN, which is free but horrible in comparison. After
trying Cornerstone and smiling with every commit, I gladly paid the
license for Cornerstone... or I should say my employer reluctantly
did :)
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maybe using Sanitize::paranoid method..
They mention as the strictest way of doing this kind of task.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-php-cake3/index.html
good luck.
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:17 AM, aman batra wrote:
>
> i want to flash an error messege whenever someone tries to add
Does anyone know if there is some trouble if, in an one-to-many
relationship, i don't put $hasMany variable in one of the models, but
to put $belongsTo in the other. Is this right?
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I tested Yii for a while. It seems nice but not as fully featured as
Cake. E.g. code generation is not even half as nice as in Cake -
relations are made by hand in every model, controller, view. a little
bit annoying. But it is fast as hell. I implemented a little project
database which I also mad
Thanks Brian!!
I knew they would be a logical place somewhere.
Cheers
Turgs
On Feb 2, 4:38 am, brian wrote:
> Place them in config/bootstrap.php.
>
> But, if you're doing language-specific stuff, you'd be *far* off
> creating .po files and putting them in the locale dir.
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009
If some association exists between these objects, you can do something
like:
$this->User->save($this->data);
$this->User->Site->save(array('Site' => array(
'user_id' => $this->User->id,
// --- any other data
)));
$this->User->Site->SitePage->save(array('SitePage' => array(
'site_i
Hello all
What's an appropriate use of requestAction()?
I have 3 controllers:
* UsersController
* SiteController
* SitePagesController
Within the add() function of UsersController, I want to (a) create a
new user (b) create a new site for that user with (c) one new page for
that site.
I just gave Cake a 5 star rating :)
On Feb 2, 12:11 am, yusuf widi wrote:
> Hi guyz... i got this somewhere on the net...
>
> http://www.phpframeworks.com/top-10-php-frameworks/
>
> Why they put cake php on the fifth place? i dont think we were worse than
> those framework... :)
> does anyone h
Hi, is this the right way for a cake app to support singular/plural
terms?
default.po of the language:
msgid "item"
msgid_plural "items"
msgstr[0] ""
msgstr[1] ""
In the app may I use then:
Inflector::pluralize(i18n::translate('item'))
to get plural translation of "item", after setting proper
Hey Thanks Miles.
It has solved my issue.
One more basic problem I struct in question is I have a products/view/ page
( Products controller and view method )
eg : http://xyz.com/products/view/leatherProd
So in this page what should be the href value for any other products
eg. http://xyz.com/produ
i want to flash an error messege whenever someone tries to add any php
or javascript on the comments tag on any image on my website. i have
stripped the scripts but now it is adding an empty comment on the
comments field rather than displaying an error messege.
this is my strip script beforevalid
App::import('Model', 'ModelName');
$model = new ModelName();
But that would only work within the cake system itself.
On Feb 1, 8:20 pm, bwragg wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We have some code written in an existing app and will be migrating it
> to cake in the future but for step 1 of the migration we ne
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