Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
W dniu 19 stycznia 2012 16:44 użytkownik Carl Sorensen napisał: > On 1/19/12 6:07 AM, "Martin Straeten" wrote: >> >>Your idea regarding a "no beamlet sticking out" property seems to be a >>practicable solution; the workaround described in the issue is fine for >>the simple example, but is quite i

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-19 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/19/12 6:07 AM, "Martin Straeten" wrote: > >Your idea regarding a "no beamlet sticking out" property seems to be a >practicable solution; the workaround described in the issue is fine for >the simple example, but is quite inconvenient in real life. The current patch on issue 2228 restores the

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-19 Thread Martin Straeten
i found further examples with less different rhythms Bach English Suite 1: http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/5/59/IMSLP63610-PMLP05770-Bach_Oeves_Complets_Peters_Liv_8_BWV_806-811_2783.pdf page 15, 5th system Bach English Suite 5: http://petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usimg/e/ec/IMSLP109385-P

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-17 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/17/12 3:33 AM, "Martin Straeten" wrote: >here two examples: >BWV 544: >http://216.129.110.22/files/imglnks/usimg/4/4a/IMSLP01329-BWV0544.pdf >old Edition of Bach Gesellschaft This example shows examples of beaming the 3/8 unit it both two and three. In measures 3-6, the pedal is beamed in

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
After a thorough review of the literature, I'm pretty satisfied that the beaming in 2.14 was wrong. The beaming in 2.15.24 is correct. If the 2.14 beaming is desired, a workaround is shown on lilypond issue 2228: I've marked that issue

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/16/12 3:41 PM, "Janek Warchoł" wrote: >Carl, > >Thanks for your research. >I agree that there must be tied notes if one wants this melody to be >in 3/4 meter. >However, i'm not sure about 6/8. My "pure reasoning" is that a >measure in 6/8 meter divides like this: > >4. + 4. >8+8+8 + 8+8+8

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
Carl, 2012/1/16 Carl Sorensen : > Having reviewed Gould on beaming, I don't believe that the 3/4 time > measure in this example shows a valid problem. > > The rhythm in the 3/4 measure is an invalid measure.  The three beats in > the measure are combined in such a way that the beats are obscured,

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/15/12 2:50 PM, "Martin Straeten" wrote: >> I'm not top posting. >in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver >points to the dotted quaver. > >semiquavers should be beamed together like in 2.14.2 > >%-sample-- >\version "2.15.24" >\score { >\relative c'{ > \time 6/8 >

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/15/12 2:50 PM, "Martin Straeten" wrote: >> I'm not top posting. >in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver >points to the dotted quaver. > >semiquavers should be beamed together like in 2.14.2 > >%-sample-- >\version "2.15.24" >\score { >\relative c'{ > \time 6/8 >

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/15/12 6:04 PM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: >On 1/15/12 3:06 PM, "Janek Warchoł" wrote: > >>2012/1/15 Martin Straeten : I'm not top posting. >>> in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver >>> points to the dotted quaver. >>> >>> semiquavers should be beamed together >> >>I

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 1/15/12 3:06 PM, "Janek Warchoł" wrote: >2012/1/15 Martin Straeten : >>> I'm not top posting. >> in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver >> points to the dotted quaver. >> >> semiquavers should be beamed together > >I may be wrong, but i don't agree. Beaming them togethe

Re: wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-15 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/15 Martin Straeten : >> I'm not top posting. > in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver > points to the dotted quaver. > > semiquavers should be beamed together I may be wrong, but i don't agree. Beaming them together would be against the rhythmical subdivision in 6/8

wrong beamlet direction in 6/8 and 3/4 measure for dotted quaver and semiquavers

2012-01-15 Thread Martin Straeten
> I'm not top posting. in 6/8 an 3/4 measure the beamlet of the last/first semiwaver points to the dotted quaver. semiquavers should be beamed together like in 2.14.2 %-sample-- \version "2.15.24" \score { \relative c'{ \time 6/8 c16 d e f8. c8. d16 e f \time 3/4