Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> 1. The time signature is written immediately before the |: separating > the bars of :||: if necessary, unless a repeat alternative ends in a > different meter than the repeat section begins with, in which case the > time signature is moved after the |:. > 2. The time signature is always written

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-10 Thread Hans Aberg
On 10 Aug 2009, at 00:51, David Kastrup wrote: I figure LilyPond might support what people want to typeset. Yes, if I tell it explicitly. Short of that, Lilypond should pick the way that best reflects the art of typesetting, as recognized by the developers. It is ok if there are manual overr

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-09 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Aberg writes: > On 9 Aug 2009, at 21:07, Bernard Hurley wrote: > >>> The default rule is really that one should have a minimum number of >>> time >>> signatures if the repeat construct is expanded*). >> >> That seems like a reasonable rule. But a quick look through my pile >> of full scores

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-09 Thread Hans Aberg
On 9 Aug 2009, at 21:07, Bernard Hurley wrote: The default rule is really that one should have a minimum number of time signatures if the repeat construct is expanded*). That seems like a reasonable rule. But a quick look through my pile of full scores (Mostly Dover reprints of 18th and 19

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-09 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 11:41:37PM +0200, Hans Aberg wrote: > On 8 Aug 2009, at 15:41, Valentin Villenave wrote: > >> Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report >> (possibly with a picture)? > > The default rule is really that one should have a minimum number of time > signatur

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-09 Thread Hans Aberg
On 9 Aug 2009, at 11:13, Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/8/8 David Kastrup : Meter changes should occur before an opening repeat sign. If there is a closing one immediately adjacently, opening and closing one are placed apart, and the meter change in between. Thanks, I've added it as http

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-09 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/8 David Kastrup : > Meter changes should occur before an opening repeat sign.  If there is a > closing one immediately adjacently, opening and closing one are placed > apart, and the meter change in between. Thanks, I've added it as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=828 Re

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-08 Thread Hans Aberg
On 8 Aug 2009, at 15:41, Valentin Villenave wrote: Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report (possibly with a picture)? The default rule is really that one should have a minimum number of time signatures if the repeat construct is expanded*). An alternative way to put

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report >> (possibly with a picture)? > > Meter changes should occur before an opening repeat sign. If there > is a closing one immediately adjacently, opening and closing one are > placed apart, and the meter change in between. I've sent

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-08 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave writes: > 2009/8/8 Werner LEMBERG : >> Yes.  By default, a meter change should be positioned before the >> repetition sign. >> >> This should be added to the bug tracker... > > Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report > (possibly with a picture)? Meter ch

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/8 Werner LEMBERG : > Yes.  By default, a meter change should be positioned before the > repetition sign. > > This should be added to the bug tracker... Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report (possibly with a picture)? Regards, Valentin

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I have looked into some Bulgarian sheet music, and they do the same as > in Hindemith and in your example: > 1. If the meter shift occurs at a staff break, the staff lines before > the break gets a courtesy time signature at the very end (without a > following bar). > 2. The time signature appea

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-07 Thread Hans Aberg
On 7 Aug 2009, at 08:55, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Here an example from Brahms Gesamtausgabe, Haydn Variations, which demonstrates what I mean. I have looked into some Bulgarian sheet music, and they do the same as in Hindemith and in your example: 1. If the meter shift occurs at a staff break,

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Here an example from Brahms Gesamtausgabe, Haydn Variations, which >> demonstrates what I mean. > > Hm, at the ultimate beginning. No, in the middle of the piece (see the bar number). > Isn't it customary not to set a repeat sign at all in that case? You have to indicate the beginning of the

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-07 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> In the incipit to the `Repeats' section, I think it should be >>> >>>2 | >>> |: >>>4 | >>> >>> instead of >>> >>>| 2 >>>|: >>>| 4 >>> >>> Later in the chapter there is a snippet which demonstrates this. >> >> Not sure. It would appear to me

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> In the incipit to the `Repeats' section, I think it should be >> >>2 | >> |: >>4 | >> >> instead of >> >>| 2 >>|: >>| 4 >> >> Later in the chapter there is a snippet which demonstrates this. > > Not sure. It would appear to me that > > 2 | > :|: > 4 | >

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-06 Thread Hans Aberg
On 6 Aug 2009, at 18:59, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERG writes: In the incipit to the `Repeats' section, I think it should be 2 | |: 4 | instead of | 2 |: | 4 Later in the chapter there is a snippet which demonstrates this. Not sure. It would appear to me that

Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-06 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: > In the incipit to the `Repeats' section, I think it should be > >2 | > |: >4 | > > instead of > >| 2 >|: >| 4 > > Later in the chapter there is a snippet which demonstrates this. Not sure. It would appear to me that 2 | :|: 4 |

2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
In the incipit to the `Repeats' section, I think it should be 2 | |: 4 | instead of | 2 |: | 4 Later in the chapter there is a snippet which demonstrates this. Werner ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org ht