Re: uname -s and naming confusion

2003-01-16 Thread Danilo S(egan
Tom Hart wrote: From my Oxford Dictionary of Current English (I'll avoid Merriam-Webster since it has several "bugs" involving the spellings of words like "colour", "honour", "theatre", "centre", etc.): operating system (n.) basic software that enables the running of a computer program. Sou

Re: uname -s and naming confusion

2002-11-01 Thread Tom Hart
Robert Millan wrote: The real problem comes when people who think "OS != kernel" (which are 99% of people) learn from the first group that the Hurd is an OS, which is completely wrong. I think 99% of people don't have a clue what a kernel is. I know I didn't before I started using GNU/Linux. F

Re: uname -s and naming confusion

2002-10-31 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 04:17:48PM -0600, Tom Hart wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > > > >For what i can see, the confusion consists in that many people think > >the Hurd is an operating system whereas GNU is a collection of software > >that just happens to work well on Un*x. > > I don't think many

Re: uname -s and naming confusion

2002-10-29 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 04:17:48PM -0600, Tom Hart wrote: > This is *not* a bug. It's a disagreement between HUMAN BEINGS over > terminology. We don't say that other people are "buggy" if they disagree > with us. I've done that. =) > What is GNU/FreeBSD? That is the FreeBSD port that uses gli

Re: uname -s and naming confusion

2002-10-29 Thread Tom Hart
Robert Millan wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 03:36:02PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Tom Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The GNU project uses the term "operating system" to refer to the complete *usable* system, ie. GNU, GNU/Hurd, GNU/Linux, and "kernel" to refer to the kernel, ie. Lin

Re: uname -s and naming confusion

2002-10-29 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 03:36:02PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Tom Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > The GNU project uses the term "operating system" to refer to the > > complete *usable* system, ie. GNU, GNU/Hurd, GNU/Linux, and "kernel" > > to refer to the kernel, ie. Linux, H

Re: uname -s and naming confusion

2002-10-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Tom Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Doesn't a lot of this confusion come from: > > 1. No enforced standardization of terminology. > > The GNU project uses the term "operating system" to refer to the > complete *usable* system, ie. GNU, GNU/Hurd, GNU/Linux, and "kernel" > to refer to the kerne

Re: uname -s and naming confusion

2002-10-25 Thread Tom Hart
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:05:56AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: According to documentation of BSD Unix [1], the uname command appeared in 4.4BSD distribution, and the -s op