Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Jacques A. Vidrine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Much like comparing the hostname to pathnames, this is an > apples-to-oranges comparison. Besides, since the system can define > HOST_NAME_MAX to be any value larger than _POSIX_HOST_NAME_MAX, there > is no arbitrary limit. As

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-30 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 10:33:06AM -0500, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > ``Have you stopped yet?'' I've outlined why > I think having the situation with gethostname on GNU/Hurd stinks. We > disagree, but there's no need for an attack. (Sorry for replying a second time to the same message) Ther

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-30 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 10:33:06AM -0500, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > Much like comparing the hostname to pathnames, this is an > apples-to-oranges comparison. Besides, since the system can define > HOST_NAME_MAX to be any value larger than _POSIX_HOST_NAME_MAX, there > is no arb

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-30 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
I think this will be my last posting on this topic. I don't think anything useful is being added now -- you appear to just be flaming. I don't really want to encourage that. On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 02:10:50PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > My point is that you are willing to delibera

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Jacques A. Vidrine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Are referring to the fact that I would prefer to use a manifest > constant versus sysconf or looping until a fit is found? Clearly I > don't think that is an inferior solution, but rather a practical one. My point is that you are will

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 12:40:12PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > "Jacques A. Vidrine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If the Hurd will not define MAXHOSTNAMELEN nor HOST_NAME_MAX, then > > indeed there really isn't a good choice. We'd have to use sysconf or > > _POSIX_HOST_NAME_MAX

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Jacques A. Vidrine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the Hurd will not define MAXHOSTNAMELEN nor HOST_NAME_MAX, then > indeed there really isn't a good choice. We'd have to use sysconf or > _POSIX_HOST_NAME_MAX or what we `know' _POSIX_HOST_NAME_MAX to be. > I think it's a pity. You s

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 07:46:20PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Yes, the Single UNIX specification was in error. This error was taken over > to POSIX draft 6 (from the Austin group), which also said that hostnames > are limited to 255 characters. This was fixed in draft 7 by removing this >

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 08:25:28PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwantysiliogogogoch.co.uk > > (that's the name of a village). I now found more info at www.recordholders.org: "The longest host name ever used" www.tax.taxadvice.taxation.irs.tax-services.

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And Thomas doesn't live in Wales, UK, where we notice: > > llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwantysiliogogogoch.co.uk So I knew about the name of Llanfair, but I saw this and said "is that real?" So I typed (well, cut-and-pasted): ping lla

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 11:16:58AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Really? Have you seen proposals for handling internet growth? > Hostnames are already getting longer and longer. I was once at > "unmvax". Then that became "unmvax.unm.edu". Now my laptop has the > attractive address "vp19

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Jacques A. Vidrine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OTOH I don't think that an arbitrarily long hostname makes much > sense. Really? Have you seen proposals for handling internet growth? Hostnames are already getting longer and longer. I was once at "unmvax". Then that became "unmvax.unm.edu".

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 11:49:36AM -0500, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > I verified it with draft 7 of IEEE Std 1003.1-200x before posting. > I also confirmed that previous POSIX standards do not define a > suitable constant for gethostname(). And finally, the Single UNIX > Spec

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
[I may be a Heimdal developer, but these are just my personal views.] On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 05:15:46PM -0700, James Morrison wrote: > I'm posting this message from a heimdal developer to bug-hurd > for discussion on the topic of HOST_NAME_MAX. I don't have a > draft of POSIX so I can't veri

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 05:15:46PM -0700, James Morrison wrote: > However, your 1st note is something I don't agree with. For > example MAXPATHLEN is defined on many systems, but is not the best way > to find the limitations of the system because different filesystems > could have different lim

Re: heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
> --- "Jacques A. Vidrine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Regardless, the next version of POSIX specifies HOST_NAME_MAX. We > > should probably be using HOST_NAME_MAX instead of MAXHOSTNAMELEN > > in the Heimdal sources, or at least do something such as Note that no system is required to defin

heimdal on GNU HURD

2001-09-28 Thread James Morrison
oken but be more > > appropriate then libkrb5, but apart from that everything else > looks > > OK (not tested thoroughly yet, as I do not have the latest > automake > > required). > > > > Thanks. > > -- > > Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >