Viengoos (was: client-side memory buffers)

2008-04-05 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 02:18:18PM -0600, Joshua Stratton wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Neal H. Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > At Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:01:25 -0600, Joshua Stratton wrote: > > > Do you think the client-side memory model is worthwhile? And > > > would the s

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-03 Thread Joshua Stratton
> > > Do you think the client-side > > memory model is worthwhile? And would the server allocating the memory > > passing it to the client using the Mach semantics allow this client-side > > memory model while avoiding the ability for clients to unmap the > > data? > > Yes, I think such accounting

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-02 Thread Joshua Stratton
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Neal H. Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:01:25 -0600, > Joshua Stratton wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Neal H. Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Please don't top post. > > > > > > At Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:48:02 -060

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Neal H. Walfield
At Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:01:25 -0600, Joshua Stratton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Neal H. Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please don't top post. > > > > At Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:48:02 -0600, > > Joshua Stratton wrote: > > > > > > The problem you described was the client owning the

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:48:02AM -0600, Joshua Stratton wrote: > The problem you described was the client owning the memory object, > sending it to the server, and the server having the ability to unmap > the memory because it has ownership, if I understand correctly. The problem is that t

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Neal H. Walfield
Please don't top post. At Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:48:02 -0600, Joshua Stratton wrote: > > The problem you described was the client owning the memory object, sending > it to the server, and the server having the ability to unmap the memory > because it has ownership, if I understand correctly. No. Th

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Joshua Stratton
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Neal H. Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please don't top post. > > At Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:48:02 -0600, > Joshua Stratton wrote: > > > > The problem you described was the client owning the memory object, > sending > > it to the server, and the server having the

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Joshua Stratton
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Pierre THIERRY < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scribit Joshua Stratton dies 01/04/2008 hora 10:48: > > The problem you described was the client owning the memory object, > > sending it to the server, and the server having the ability to unmap > > the memory because i

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Joshua Stratton dies 01/04/2008 hora 10:48: > The problem you described was the client owning the memory object, > sending it to the server, and the server having the ability to unmap > the memory because it has ownership, if I understand correctly. The problem is that the *client* can unm

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Joshua Stratton
The problem you described was the client owning the memory object, sending it to the server, and the server having the ability to unmap the memory because it has ownership, if I understand correctly. I assumed that a lock was built into the system to prevent this, but I was wondering if this weren

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Neal H. Walfield
At Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:11:30 -0600, Joshua Stratton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Neal H. Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem is exactly the same as that with L4's data spaces. When > > the server maps and accesses the memory object, the client can revoke > > the mapping

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Joshua Stratton
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:28 AM, Neal H. Walfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:23:41 -0600, > Joshua Stratton wrote: > > > > I was on the irc channel talking about the feasibility using client-side > > memory buffers for a new network stack.

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-04-01 Thread Neal H. Walfield
At Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:23:41 -0600, Joshua Stratton wrote: > > I was on the irc channel talking about the feasibility using client-side > memory buffers for a new network stack. Based on some feedback about > difficulties of implementing this in the Hurd, I thought I would ask anyo

Re: client-side memory buffers

2008-03-31 Thread Joshua Stratton
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Joshua Stratton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was on the irc channel talking about the feasibility using client-side > memory buffers for a new network stack. Based on some feedback about > difficulties of implementing this in the Hurd, I thou

client-side memory buffers

2008-03-31 Thread Joshua Stratton
I was on the irc channel talking about the feasibility using client-side memory buffers for a new network stack. Based on some feedback about difficulties of implementing this in the Hurd, I thought I would ask anyone if they thought this would be especially difficult--particularly Marcus and