Re: Hurdish Desktop (was: OT: automation)

2009-11-23 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 18. November 2009 23:33:50 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > So a roadmap. > > I think I might have mentioned it at some point already: I have two > different ideas for a possible approach. One is to built it up from the > bottom: once I have KGI, build a console/windowing system bas

Hurdish Desktop (was: OT: automation)

2009-11-19 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 09:34:28PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Montag, 16. November 2009 23:25:16 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > Still not sure what you want to know. Are you asking for a technical > > design description? For a roadmap? Or yet something else?... > > I just

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-17 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, Am Montag, 16. November 2009 23:25:16 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > Still not sure what you want to know. Are you asking for a technical > design description? For a roadmap? Or yet something else?... I just meant the question as a prompt to you, no explicit roadmap request or similar,

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:51:29AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > How about a server which exposes dbus interfaces via the filesystem to > give instant benefit for dbus-enabled programs? > > Would that be doable? Yeah, I guess so... -antrik-

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-17 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:53:18AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Samstag, 14. November 2009 23:57:07 schrieb > olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > > How can you best reach that goal? > > > > What goal exactly?... > > Having a gui and a cli interface to every command. Still not sure wh

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-15 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, Am Samstag, 14. November 2009 23:38:21 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > That's where the Hurd comes in: with the extensible VFS, it's possible > for every component to offer a filesystem interface that can be used > by other components, by external scripts, or even by users directly. > That

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-15 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Samstag, 14. November 2009 23:57:07 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > find -print0 | shuf -z | xargs -0 mplayer > > > > I can't control the mplayer from the shell now... > > Problem is that xargs doesn't reset stdin -- not only xargs, but also > the actual program exectuted reads from th

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-14 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:38:45PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > One additional idea: How about being able to call the GUI commands > from the shell? > > (btw: KDE offers part of that via dbus/dcop, but not really perfect, I > think, because it's too complex to use) That's right at

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-14 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:27:20PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 17:27:13 schrieb > olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > find -print0 | shuf -z | xargs -0 mplayer > I can't control the mplayer from the shell now... Problem is that xargs doesn't reset stdin

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-11 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 16:59:53 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > Why would I want to use two levels of aliases? I'd simply define: > >go() { firefox google.com/search?q="$*"; } Because I know my bash less well than you know yours :-) > There are other reasons though why I'll stay

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-11 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 10. November 2009 17:27:13 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > >find -print0|xargs -0 > Well, it passes the whole file name as a single argument to the command. > So it handles spaces just fine -- unless of course the command itself > parses them, which would require additional a

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-10 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:39:52AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 14:24:55 schrieb > olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > > alt-F2 -> gg:google search -> enter -> konqueror starts the > > > search. > > > > It's stupid to have such a feature *within* some progra

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-10 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:20:01AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Freitag, 6. November 2009 09:22:14 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > The Right (TM) alternative is simply: > > > >find -print0|xargs -0 > > Does it manage spaces in filenames? Well, it passes the whole file

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-09 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 5. November 2009 14:24:55 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > alt-F2 -> gg:google search -> enter -> konqueror starts the search. > > It's stupid to have such a feature *within* some program. Such stuff > should be handled globally. See my recent rant: > >http://tri-ceps

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-09 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Freitag, 6. November 2009 09:22:14 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: -snip many variations of find-sed-xargs- > The Right (TM) alternative is simply: > >find -print0|xargs -0 Does it manage spaces in filenames? > Yeah, escaping in sed script can get really messy when not quoting the > w

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 09:54:29PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. November 2009 11:54:28 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > Another variant is zmv, which is part of zsh. I comes with its whole > > own language for specifying non-trivial filename patterns... Which > > i

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-08 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 10:59:05AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. November 2009 13:17:27 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > For example I used to do my Google and LEO searches by hand: > > > >netrik google.com/search?q=foo+bar netrik > >dict.leo.org?search=foo

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-04 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 1. November 2009 11:54:28 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > Another variant is zmv, which is part of zsh. I comes with its whole own > language for specifying non-trivial filename patterns... Which is just > idiocy. People would be much better off spending the time on learning > generi

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-04 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 1. November 2009 13:17:27 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 08:34:50AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > I think that already hints at the problem: while such tools are trivial > enough for the really simple use cases (e.g. "zmv '*.JPG' '*.jpeg'"), > there i

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-03 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 08:34:50AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2009 20:31:46 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > The scripts I mean are these small utilities which can do what I need - and > exactly that. > > Example: > - babsearch_n_replace.py [options] "ori

Re: OT: automation

2009-11-03 Thread olafBuddenhagen
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 05:23:13PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2009 11:23:59 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > That's a very bad thing to do. I hate all these mmv and other > > bullshit > > mmv? "multi move" or something like that -- a program for renaming

Re: OT: automation

2009-10-29 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 08:46:07 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > Might be related to having many spaces and non-letter characters in > > filenames, since the OS and tools damn well should not restrict how > > I name my files :) > > That's also related to the MAX_PATH issue :-) > > (I used to p

Re: OT: automation

2009-10-29 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 08:34:50AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2009 20:31:46 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > > mmv? > > > > I'd rather agree with antrik here, because stuffing all these > > operations in a single command seems a little bit useless, IMHO. > >

Re: OT: automation

2009-10-29 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, Am Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2009 20:31:46 schrieb Sergiu Ivanov: > > mmv? > > I'd rather agree with antrik here, because stuffing all these > operations in a single command seems a little bit useless, IMHO. That's something where I also agree, though. The scripts I mean are these small utili

Re: OT: automation

2009-10-28 Thread Sergiu Ivanov
Hello, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 05:23:13PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2009 11:23:59 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > That's a very bad thing to do. I hate all these mmv and other bullshit > > mmv? I've heard of this for the first time, too :-) google (``ma

Re: OT: automation

2009-10-28 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2009 11:23:59 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > That's a very bad thing to do. I hate all these mmv and other bullshit mmv? > *much* more valuable knowledge than usage of any specific scripts. This > generic knowledge, once obtained, can be reused in all kinds of > situa

Re: OT: automation

2009-10-28 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 02:14:08PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Samstag, 24. Oktober 2009 09:03:10 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > > I only write scripts for stuff that requires a lot of commands, or > > that I do *very* often -- precisely so I *have* to remember the > > comman

Re: OT: automation (was: News 2009-08-31, documentation, wiki)

2009-10-24 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Samstag, 24. Oktober 2009 09:03:10 schrieb olafbuddenha...@gmx.net: > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 08:27:37AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > Am Montag, 28. September 2009 10:16:29 schrieb Thomas Schwinge: > > > Even that (usually) is not hard at all if you know your Unix shell > > >

OT: automation (was: News 2009-08-31, documentation, wiki)

2009-10-24 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 08:27:37AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Montag, 28. September 2009 10:16:29 schrieb Thomas Schwinge: > > Even that (usually) is not hard at all if you know your Unix shell > > scripting: find / grep / sed / ... > > That's true... I think I even wrote a sma