Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-08-16 Thread Almudena Garcia
> Do you have any wireless on your machines or do you use the cable? I connect my machines via cable. If I can't connect the cable directly to my router, I use AP to connect to share my wireless connection through a ethernet port. El mié, 16 ago 2023 a las 16:11, Wojciech Aniszewski (< aniszew...@

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-08-16 Thread Wojciech Aniszewski
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 01:39:14PM +0200, Almudena Garcia wrote: > Maybe because the T30 is already IDE? Anyway, test it with these other > laptops if you want > Of course it is. But it didn't help. So to continue that thread, what I ended up doing is -- as I announced earlier in the thread -- t

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-07-12 Thread Almudena Garcia
Maybe because the T30 is already IDE? Anyway, test it with these other laptops if you want El mié, 12 jul 2023 a las 13:24, Wojciech Aniszewski (< aniszew...@dalembert.upmc.fr>) escribió: > T30 doesn't have the mentioned boot setting to simulate IDE. > Come to think about it I will probably buy a

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-07-12 Thread Wojciech Aniszewski
T30 doesn't have the mentioned boot setting to simulate IDE. Come to think about it I will probably buy a T61 or a T410 for this, since you've kindly tested them. regards w On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:34:42PM +, Almudena Garcia wrote: > Hi: > > Using previous releases, I got to install succe

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sergey Bugaev, le jeu. 15 juin 2023 11:52:24 +0300, a ecrit: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 2:14 AM Samuel Thibault > wrote: > > > So the installed system is not to blame, it must be that the installer > > > is corrupting the FS somehow. > > > > Possibly some missing disk cache flush. I believe we hav

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sergey Bugaev, le jeu. 15 juin 2023 11:52:24 +0300, a ecrit: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 2:14 AM Samuel Thibault > wrote: > > > Well, if there was, say, a call for pre-release testing, > > > > Well, Debian did ask for testing. > > > > I guess I should explicitly tell debian-hurd@ "hey that's a matt

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sergey Bugaev, le mer. 14 juin 2023 18:40:15 +0300, a ecrit: > > And most people just forgetting that it's just the same with *any* > > OS that doesn't have a huge testing team. Any departure from what is > > actually tested will get issues, very obviously. One just can't test the > > whole

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-16 Thread Wojciech Aniszewski
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:38:49AM +0200, Almudena Garcia wrote: > I expect that info are useful Oh la la, good luck with that:) But seriously, I tried to install Hurd on 4 laptops and never succeeded. Symptoms include: -black screen no boot from CD (early model of Sony Vaio) -stuck at the beginn

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-16 Thread Almudena Garcia
Hi: Using previous releases, I got to install successfully in - ThinkPad T60, R60e - ThinkPad R61i - ThinkPad T410 Using DVD-1 image. T30 is so old. The Debian GNU/HURD installer needs at least 256 MB RAM. Added to this, in the most modern machines I had to configure SATA ports in "compatibi

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-15 Thread Sergey Bugaev
On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 2:14 AM Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Well, if there was, say, a call for pre-release testing, > > Well, Debian did ask for testing. > > I guess I should explicitly tell debian-hurd@ "hey that's a matter for > *us* too". I don't think I understand what you mean; but what I me

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sergey Bugaev, le mer. 14 juin 2023 18:40:15 +0300, a ecrit: > The qemu command line I used was > $ qemu-img create -f qcow2 debian-hurd-2023.qcow2 100G > $ qemu-system-i386 -m 1G -hda debian-hurd-2023.qcow2 -cdrom > debian-sid-hurd-i386-NETINST-1.iso -enable-kvm It seems that for whatever reason

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Almudena Garcia
I've just installed Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 again, using a simpler Qemu script with IDE disk and cdrom. It works without problem This is my script, using a 20G qcow image. *MEMORY=2GFILE=$HOME/hurd_qemu/hurd2.img#CDROM=Descargas/debian-sid-hurd-i386-DVD-1.isoCDROM="$HOME/Descargas

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Almudena Garcia, le mer. 14 juin 2023 21:25:32 +0200, a ecrit: > Due to rumpdisk, I use a raw image, because the installer, using rumpdisk, > doesn't detect fine the qcow2 image. Uh? That's terribly odd: raw vs qcow is supposed to be a host-only thing, and not have any actual effect on the guest..

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Almudena Garcia, le mer. 14 juin 2023 21:25:32 +0200, a ecrit: > be a good idea to generate a DVD-1 or CD-1 image, to avoid this problem I used to do that, but for whatever reason it got broken very recently, so I couldn't do that this time. Samuel

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sergey Bugaev, le mer. 14 juin 2023 18:40:15 +0300, a ecrit: > Anyway, I am here, reporting things, and trying to fix them when I > can. (And actually wondering whether you're all tired of me already.) Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm tired of people posting in random webforums and blabbering in dumb way

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Almudena Garcia
Hi: I've just got to install Debian GNU/Hurd 12... but using Rumpdisk. Later I will test with a simpler IDE config without it. As advice, the NETINSTALL takes many time to download the packages, so it could be a good idea to generate a DVD-1 or CD-1 image, to avoid this problem Due to rumpdisk, I

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread jbranso
June 14, 2023 11:41 AM, "Sergey Bugaev" wrote: > Anyway, I am here, reporting things, and trying to fix them when I > can. (And actually wondering whether you're all tired of me already.) I think everyone is very happy that you are helping out and making the Hurd better Sergey! Joshua

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Sergey Bugaev
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 4:14 PM Samuel Thibault wrote: > ?? I'm not getting such a result at all of course. How did you run the > installation *exactly*? The image I downloaded was debian-sid-hurd-i386-NETINST-1.iso from [0] [0]: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/hurd-i386/12.0/debian-si

Re: Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sergey Bugaev, le mer. 14 juin 2023 15:12:22 +0300, a ecrit: > Unfortunately the released installation ISO is very broken :( , which > spoils the whole thing. > > Once you install it and try to boot for the first time, you are greeted > with a wall of errors about /dev//tty1 ?? I'm not ge

Everything's broken (was: Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 released!)

2023-06-14 Thread Sergey Bugaev
Hello -- and congratulations to all involved! Unfortunately the released installation ISO is very broken :( , which spoils the whole thing. Once you install it and try to boot for the first time, you are greeted with a wall of errors about /dev//tty1 (yes, with a double slash) and the other ttys